Eskimo Shit Knife--fact or fantasy?

Or Kale.:slight_smile:

Come on people, the only credible source linked to this nonsense, presented it as a tongue in cheek reference to a MYTH.

Btw: Where did the 10,000 year time frame (above@watchwolf49) come from?

We’re talking about the grandfather of a photographed (quasi modern) person. If we conclude that it was impossible for his grandfather to accomplish this fete, then it would by extension, be impossible for any of his forbearers to accomplish the fete, irrespective how many generations you go back.

We’re talking about arctic sub zero temperatures?

I can easily see a turd freezing and could be sharpened. I’d assume they shaped it into a pointed tool before it freezes.

It’s not going to soften if you’re working in -30 F conditions.

Do you have a cite on Wade Davis meaning it to be a tongue in cheek reference, or something that he thought to be a myth?

Is that a frozen turd in your pocket or are you glad to see me?

I beg to differ, though shit infused water (or water infused shit…You make the choice) may not** soften** @ -30 F,* it would certainly lose it’s edge* immediately upon the use upon a carcass.

Not to mention the complicating factors of the initial challenge of sufficiently applying a cutting edge to said turd, AND maintaining it through the butchering process as mentioned above: due to (or lack of) temperature differentials.

No I do not.

However, the video is self explanatory if you observe his body language.
Do you have a cite confirming his reference?

How many different words do Eskimos have for “shit”?

A fresh poop would be very malleable until it froze. Easily flattened and shaped into a blade.

Perhaps they cut serrated teeth into it? That eliminates the need for a fine edge

It would take some skill. But natives fashioned tools from various materials for thousands of years.

Thank you, but this is just a reiteration of the original.

Wade Davis is a very sincere Anthropologist/ethno-botanist. I have to retract my contention that his tale of the shit knife was tongue in cheek. Upon further reading, I’ve come to the conclusion that he truly believes it is possible.

I disagree with his assertion. Not that this story wasn’t in fact relayed to him, but rather, the reality of the tale is in fact a myth… With no basis in reality.

This is a link to a story about Peter Freuchen, not Wade Davis. Freuchen’s accounts were documented in his biography, Vagrant Viking;: My life and adventures . This biography was published in 1953, the same year Wade Davis was born. I don’t think this story was influenced at all by Wade Davis or is a retelling of some original Davis story.
Wade Davis talked about an Inuit using a shit-knife to skin a dog. Peter Freuchen talks about the time he made a shit-chisel to free himself from ice after 30 hours of being stuck following an avalanche. Freuchen mentions that he learned to fasten the tool by watching natives.

What about the assertions of Arctic explorer, Peter Freuchen? Do you think he made it all up?

The OP’s link was to a search result with Wade Davis’s shit knife story as the top result(s).
Though Freuchen’s accounts may be vaguely related, that is not what the OP queried. The two stories do not coincide.

Right? There is a world of difference between shit chisels and shit knives. I was really hoping that this thread wouldn’t veer off topic.

“See the snow, it is fornicating”.

Reference

If you bother to read the entire text of Muffin’s link, you will find a reiteration of Wade Davis’s story near the end (that I was referring to), which is the subject of this discussion, not Peter Freuchen.

One could fashion a bust of Trump’s head out of shit and allow it to freeze, and it would not replicate his stupidity. I wouldn’t insult a frozen turd that way.

Likewise, just because you can fashion some art de feces and freeze it, doesn’t mean that it will somehow magically perform the function of the object it represents.

The way I understand the story, there’s nothing about shit that makes it particularly good for making implements. But the elder has no tools of any kind, and he’s out in the elements, presumably surrounded by solid ice, which he has no means to chop or shape. He just needs a substance he can work into shape as it freezes, and shit is readily available to him. I suppose he also might have pissed on some ice to temporarily melt it so he could work it. Either way, the key is that his family thinks they’ve taken away all his tools, but he’s far more resourceful than they can imagine.

Whether it happened, or is even plausible, I have no idea. It sounds to me like it’s intended to be a parable rather than a real story. But, I dunno.

I am still laughing at “Eskimo Shit Knife” as a band name, though.

I did bother to read the link. Did you bother to read the OP? At all? The subject of discussion is “Eskimo Shit Knife–fact or fantasy?” I mean, it’s only written right there in the Subject line. Among the specific questions at hand–had you bother to actually read the OP–is “would [it] work”. The answer to that questions is “yes”. It has worked. There are first hand accounts of it actually working.