The kind of person that just wants a fight, win, lose or draw, as long as it was tough and fair.
It referrs to a certain mindset of 0.0 denizen and their attitude to combat.
Such people tend to rove around in gangs of fast nimble ships picking off ratters, haulers and other people to pad their killboard while studiously avoiding anything that looks like a fair fight or a strategicaly important battlefield. The classic ships are sabres and vagabonds supported by falcons.
Such people are generally the first to leave an alliance that is failing, typically because they have great killboard stats they go to another ‘elite PVP’ alliance where they will suffer the same fate again when they come up against people who measure success in sovereignty terms (primarily goonswarm, the old russian alliances and our friends).
Frontal impact and beachboys are like poster boys for the good fights movement. There’s currently 5 of them camping c3n station with expensive ships annoying a few industrial alts going about their business. In the meantime the strategic stuff is taking place in 49-.
Goonswarm loves fighting against alliances populated by ‘good fights’ types because we know they’ll link ratter kills in local and brag about it but will be strangely absent when the big grindfests for system sov roll around.
There’s a few of these around as well, and fair dues to them but the inverted commas in my original usage was an allusion to the difference between what the people I described say and what they are.
In general sov battles aren’t won by fighting fair fights between equal numbers of shining knights on the field of honour but by a willingness to stack the game in your favour and sheer determination not to lose, to go back when you lose a ship and get another. It’s quite an exhausting playstyle, because you don’t get to choose when to fight as often as you would like but the reality is that if you try to fight fair, you will lose.
Awesome day today. Spent way too long in 49- shooting POS’. Sucked. Then when we were done incapping stuff, we went back to our staging area to switch out to HAC’s as we heard reports of a smallish Kenny gang in/around UHKL.
Along the way, scouts reported that there were actually two red gangs that, together, were way above our numbers. We engaged anyways, and managed to pull out roughly equal kills. Fights like this are why I love EVE.
We stole a Beach boys tower (although they blew up the cloaking transport ship we were stealing it with because I couldn’t find a second dictor to slow them down enough on their way into the system). Essentially we traded a blackbird, a dictor and a transport ship for a large tower kill. We also heard news of Kenny mining in high sec, as well as the 49- guys doing a good job all day.
Yes, today has gone ‘rather favourably’ for us.
I keep missing all the fun in 49- .
Every time I’ve been there recently, it’s been POS, POS, POS. Last night, right after I logged, we engaged and destroyed a small battleship gang. Figures.
P.S. For anybody interested in learning PvP, even Empire dwellers, the Tribune is going go be running a series on Agony starting this week and continuing on as their PvP courses do each month. Check it out if you’re curious.
Ok…need a ruling.
In the difficulty levels for Sleeper sites, from easiest to hardest, is it:
Perimeter > Frontier > Core
or…
Frontier > Perimeter > Core
If memory serves.
I don’t want to post my own opinions on this yet, but I’m interested in what others think about today’s events vis-a-vis kenzoku being renamed by a GM. Any thought?
BoB Reloaded: Whoa!
Ahem.
Off the cuff… it seems to be preferential treatment as CCP’s own official policy says that players, corps and such cannot be renamed. But they don’t explicitly mention alliances. IIRC, one alliance in the past was renamed but in exchange for doing that they had to pay 1 bil Isk and agree to have all their sov reset. Of course BoB (back to BoB now, just when i was getting used to them being Kenny, heh) don’t really have sov except in a few systems but in keeping with precedent they should, at least, have had that sov stripped and charged. I don’t think it matters much, but it sticks in my craw a bit.
Oh, and, 49- today was hilariously fucked. Our (Razor’s) fleet was nearly double DD’d along with Morsus Mihi’s fleet when Pandemic landed on a fight and cut loose without regard for blues. We joked about that for a while on our way back to 9CG-.
Plus ,the word “bobr” in Russian means beaver.
I thank BoB/Kenny/Beaver for reminding everyone why we hated them in the first place.
The cap fleet toasted ~10 carriers and 2 POS while all that was going on. Kenny has a mountain to climb if they hope to stop the good guys getting Sov 3 in 49-.
Not clear on the whole name change thing. I am amazed CCP did this and would really like an official response from them on how this sort of magic happens.
So far CCP is locking almost all threads asking about it with a note telling people to post in the CAOD epic thread. Of course not all people can post in CAOD and that thread is so long already, and it is the scumpit that is CAOD, that posting to it is aking to it being dropped in a Black Hole.
There is also an epic length vote in Assembly Hall to get the name changed back. At least they have not locked that.
Smells to me.
An alliance mate of mine filed a petition whose text I don’t think he’d mind me sharing. And while I wouldn’t ever advise people to file frivolous petitions, by any means, I would point out that honest petitions along the same lines can A) get CCP to reevaluate their policy B) that if they don’t, it can give IA a reason to investigate why Beaver was not only given a name change against the rules, but apparently one that violates the character limit on alliance names (IIRC, at least).
Text follow:
I am currently in the process of redeploying 13 POS I run to deal with a Corp/Alliance reorganization. It is a huge drag to do. I considered a petition to just have all our Corp/Alliance names changed and POS updated accordingly so I do not have to bother with this rather large task. We do not have Sovereignty issues even so should be no trouble for CCP.
Right?
Also, my main character’s name was accidentally created with a lower case first letter. That has always annoyed me. I want it changed to a capital letter…so not even technically a name “change”. I see no reason CCP can’t accommodate that.
Petition, petition, petition.
Oh, and from one of our European alliance mates:
“Bobr is beaver in russian, but bobr actually means hairy pussy in Polish”
As someone who spent the greater part of yesterday putting up a few pos (but yay, jumpbridges) you have my condolences and support. The pos management side of this game is horrible busywork.
Too many games have come out recently, distracting me from EVE. I’m still keeping my training going though.
Has scanning down mission runners become easier? The few times I’ve logged on lately I’ve had my mission scanned down and ‘my’ wrecks salvaged. I know I shouldn’t do missions in a hub but it wasn’t much of a problem before.
The scanning mechanics have indeed changed. I found the older version easier for ship scanning but the new version has attracted a lot more people to try their hand. Can you not just kill whoever is doing this?