Face Off, Season 4 (SyFy Series)

I just hated that her attitude was so negative. I’ve had to be around people like that, who always have something bad to say and can only see the down side of everything. Drives me crazy!

But the blue werewolf that won was pretty cool!

I am usually pretty soft-hearted and hate seeing the loser kicked off each week, especially because so many people who have left had shown SOME good work in previous challenges.

Last night I was thrilled beyond measure. Autumn, as she comes across on this show, is a terrible person with no talent.

Don’t the contestants watch the previous seasons, though? I think it was last season that several people got slammed by the judges for being whiny and blame-casting when they had an awful partner. So I was surprised that Eric was so quick to point the finger. I feel the judges are usually decent at figuring out who was the weak link, and in the past they have also commended contestants for being even-tempered when faced with a poor partner.

My biggest reaction that’s not related to Autumn is surprise that Meagan did so well in both parts. My impression of her work is mostly meh, maybe that was underscored a lot by the sad moth from last week. I didn’t like her and House’s martian werewolf as much as the judges did, so maybe it was good technically in a way I couldn’t judge as much from home. I liked the concept of the astronaut turning into a werewolf on Mars, but to me, the end result looked like a big red lump.

I might have misheard this, but did someone say that Saturn has a lot of rocks when talking about the costume? People, please!

Well the rings are just bands of rocky material, so I mean…yeah.

I actually only saw the elimination, didn’t know anything about anything regarding the challenge and I cheered when Autumn was sent home. How she got on the show in the first place is a mystery, she cannot sculpt worth a damn.

Agreed. I thought the winning wolf was actively good, and the other three were all mediocre at best.
I’m certainly also glad to see Autumn out the door.

Yeah, the backwards wolf wouldn’t have been so bad if those wings hadn’t been so pathetically small and vestigial. And if wolves had, you know, wings.

The Jupiter werewolf (and maybe the Saturn one) should have been hairy floating blobs with claws. Far as I know, there’s no real surface to Jupiter. And being a werewolf on Jupiter must be exhausting, it apparently has 67 confirmed moons. I’d guess you get a full moon every fifteen minutes or so. They should really just have given their wolf an armful of wristwatches and called it a day.

I thought the backwards wolf had some potential too. What I thought they were going for was how crazy it would look for the legs to be bending in the wrong places when the werewolf was crouching down or lurking around … but the model was just standing there. Maybe I shouldn’t blame the model so much, it’s possible the rest of the costume was so heavy or inflexible that the model couldn’t move very much, which would certainly be a design flaw.

And on the opposite side of the coin, the model for Autumn and Eric was trying to be more animated, which made the whole thing look twitchier and even more sad.

Sometimes I wonder how the models feel about standing there listening to the judges talk about how crappy they look. I realize they are getting paid, and that they know, obviously, that the judges are talking about the costumes and make-up, but still I wonder if mentally it’s wearying to hear people going on and on about how AWFUL you look. I know it’s just a job.

The most telling comment about Autumn was made by the judge in the middle, when he said “We all heard your dissertation on how the sculpt went”. That tells me that (A) Autumn never shut up, and it was edited out for time, and (B), that judge is usually fairly classy in his remarks, and that was as subtle and upperclass of a bitchslap as I’ve ever heard.

The blue wolf was just damn pretty to look at. The red wolf was awful! I don’t see why it was praised.

And the zombie challenge? Why was it even there?

First off, the zombie challenge was fun. This is the first time I’ve seen them to a “you have to fix a crowd fast” challenge, so that was a unique twist. There was a lot of interesting look on zombies. I was happy Megan won on that. She thought about the whole appearance, not just the fronts or faces. Good on her.

And Autumn first off, painting by hand brush, and second, whining about the lack of sponges. GAH! What were you expecting your partner to do, go get them for you? Why didn’t you ask one of the models to check the front porch for you? Huh? They’re just standing around, put them to work.

And Autumns comment “Zombies were practically invented in Philidelphia”. :confused:

Next comes the alien werewolf challenge. My immediate reaction was “wait, several of those planets are gas giants, how do they have aliens on them to be werewolves?” And then the comment about Saturn having a rocky terrain - WTF? Where did they get that? Was that on the card they were given or something?

I also noted the fog, and how it was in a perfect layer rolling in when they arrived, and was mostly gone when they were leaving. I think someone packed the region with dry ice.

As far as the sculpts, I was expecting better from Eric F and Anthony, but the judges called it with the concept being too big without appreciating how the actor would actually be able to perform in the suit, and biting off too much work and then not getting done. Scale down a bit, and then put the actual finishing touches on and get a quality product. Anthony has been good about that before, I hope he can pull it back out.

The backwards wolf with wings didn’t make sense to me - the actor has to be able to act. Sure the knees bend backwards when he walks, but how does he see where he’s going, what he’s doing? And his arms are useless hanging props. And the wings were dreadful. They were not well crafted, and the hands were actually visible. Just a dreadful result. Couple that with the oversized head that didn’t get painted and the lack of quality in that sculpt. Definitely not either’s best work, and bad decisions all around.

Wayne and Chris did awesome with their blue werewolf. The head wasn’t bad, and it was neat how they went high on the body and elongated the neck. It fit with the overall structure of the beast. And then the sculpt on the torso, chest and back, was excellent. Good call and I could tell who was going to win by the judges’ gushing.

House and Megan’s Mars zombie was a good concept, but the execution wasn’t there for me. I heard the positives the judges said, and can agree, but hte face had issues for me (not just they lack of paint around the eyes). And then there was the back - WTF was that thing?

Then they listed the breakdown of tasks - that was House from top to bottom. All Megan apparently did was that horrid back thing. Note to teams, don’t let Megan near the fur.

So even though she won the zombie challenge and has had some good things, she’s probably in line for the next elimination.

And then there was the Eric Z/Autumn debacle. Immediate thought when they were pairing up - poor Eric, but someone’s gotta take one for the team, so this week it looks like it’s you. I kinda get the concept of rocks for bones, for structural rigidity. The comes execution. I think Eric should have given her some observations, and then just focused on doing his part well and letting hers suck. Pig face indeed. Reminded me of that Gummi Bear incident. And then the shape and design of the back piece jutting up and out, and bounding around. Yes, it was floppnig when the actor moved. And the blends for the feet and hands were standard Autumn quality. Then you’ve got the torso and head juxtaposed with the arms and legs. Shudder. Just a disaster from top to bottom. I will say one thing, though, Autumn was right that Eric did resculpt the face when he got the shot at it. He was making sigificant reshaping that she then undid. So we have dueling “cartoonish pig” vs “Wyle Coyote”. What fun.

Yes, the judges have shown little patience for dumping on your teammate. Looks like the best approach there is to try to give constructive feedback and then concentrate on making your elements the best you can and let the judges sort out whose work had the most validity. They did kinda chide Eric for not standing up enough for his stuff. They seem to expect him to have argued with Autumn more for the design elements and appearance. After all, it is supposed to be a team project, and the best teams have cohensive looks even when they separate the work, like the blue werewolf.

Well, at least Autumn is finally gone.

After an awesome start, Anthony hasn’t been holding up on the later challenges. House is doing okay work, but I’m not thrilled with is aesthetic. Wayne and Chris are doing well now (and I can’t keep them straight). Eric F is going too big and not quite getting things done or polished.

Well an exaggeration, but the zombies, or at least our current interpretation of them, was practically invented by George Romero in Night of the Living Dead in 1968, which takes place in a rural Pennsylvania farmhouse. However, it wasn’t really until the sequel Dawn of the Dead in 1978 that they became more culturally relevant. That movie takes place in Philadelphia, although it was actually filmed around Pittsburgh.

I’m a little conflicted. Like most everybody, I couldn’t wait to see Autumn exit stage left, both for her negative attitude and her mediocre work. Given what we know about the way reality show producers edit footage to create conflict, this may not have been a completely accurate representation of her personality, however, and that’s my beef. I’ve said in the past that one of the reasons this is the only reality show I watch is that Faceoff is not about the clash of personalities. The drama comes from the creative process, not who-hates-whom and who’s-banging-whom. So I disliked the emphasis on the Autumn/Eric Z. disharmony.

I am glad though that the judges called him out on his part of it. Yes, Autumn was a pain in the keister. But he appeared to follow a strategy of “let her fail, then stand back and disavow any part of the failure”. That was passive-aggressive and dangerous. Faceoff is a competition in professional makeup skills. Which includes time management, working under pressure - why the zombie foundation challenge was a really good one - and working collaboratively. Guaranteed, out in the real world, Eric is going to lock horns with colleagues. Simply retreating under pressure and not advocating for himself is not a good career strategy. What if the judges had decided that he was responsible for the horrible makeup? I agree with Glenn, if he’d tried that on a real job, he’d have been out on his ass as well as her.

I’m surprised Eric F and Anthony showed so poorly. When I first saw Eric F. at the start of the season, I thought “Danger! Douchebag alert! Watch for pretension, self-importance, and guyliner!” But his cheerfulness, creativity, and dorky enthusiasm for his craft have made him my favorite artist this season. I thought that coupling his balls-to-the-wall attitude with Anthony’s quiet competence would result in something really great. Alas, not so. Not bad, but not up to either’s past works.

I must admit, I am surprised at how well Wayne is doing. I at first dismissed him as a himbo, but he’s done some good stuff, and that Neptunian werewolf that he and Kris put together was amazing. I don’t know if it occurred to them, but the height seemed to show an awareness that Neptune’s gravity is not earth-normal, and that their werewolf is an alien creature - not just a Terran wolf with blue fur.

mn…slow on the refresh button.

My question is did the planets have to do with judging the final design?
Mars: OK it’s red but the colors of Mars are more rust and butterscotch and not cherry red.
Jupiter: Werewolf has to live in high gravity do that should determine how the body is built. Possible diamonds in Jupiter’s core and lots of electrical storms so how did that enter into it?
Saturn: Not made of rock. They said they wanted to use the color of Saturn which is yellowish.
Neptune: They took into account the cold and color. Neptune has the fastest winds in the solar system so if any wolf would have wings it would be that one.

I really hated this challenge because the “challenge” of having your werewolf actually living on the other planet didn’t work for me.

In general I agree with you. But when the disfunction is what keeps them from performing, it is important to show at least a bit of their interaction.

Eric’s “go big” strategy went too big, and they couldn’t pull it out at the end. Plus, the design choice was a bad decision and it affected the outcome. But even the head sculpt wasn’t up to par for either of them.

Which is Wayne and which Chris? I can’t keep them straight. Even the way the head blended down to the shoulders was well done, extending the neck in a natural way.

Didn’t seem to have any bearing at all.

Agreed. I think I might have tried putting my werewolf on one of the moons of Jupiter, like Titan. Or something. I just couldn’t make it work, because the planets don’t support humanoid life forms. Mars was definitely the only pick I could conceive.

Not much to say that hasn’t already been said, except that I chuckled when Glenn bashed the “muzzle face” werewolf look. Considering that Glenn’s studio worked on Buffy, and that show had one of the most universally panned werewolf makeups in history:

http://www.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/legacy/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/250px-Werewolf_Oz.jpg

primarily stupid for NOT having any sort of wolf-like muzzle or features. It made me chuckle.

Wolves have snouts. End of story. No snout, it’s a not a wolf, it’s a were-monkey.

I realized I misheard it later, and that House must have been saying something like “an astronaut bitten by a lycanthrope” and maybe he mumbled over the word lycanthrope, but in the moment, I thought he said “bitten by a LICHEN.” Which maybe I believed because every once in a while there is some article about how possibly a lichen would be the form of life that could survive on Mars (and after hearing about the rocks of Saturn, who knows what these people think?). So now I’m thinking this astronaut was bitten by a lichen, which would have to make for the dullest werewolf story ever. A lichenthrope. Oh no.

Yeah, I didn’t like this challenge conceptually either, because not only don’t the planets support humanoids, they don’t support wolves. So how anything is happening, I have no idea.

No, I think he said “Lycan” which is what they called the Lyanthropes in Underworld, and maybe elsewhere. Yes, it sounds just like Lichen, which is one of the many reasons why Underworld was dumb.

Thanks for the explanation! Now I’m not sure which is dumber, “Lycan” or “Lichen.”

I didn’t love this challenge. I was thinking they’d tell them to do mermaids, or something more sea-based. But the winner was obvious and spot-on, I was amazed and how lamely some people used the florescent paint. I think mohawk Eric had a really cool idea, and it turned out well, if incomplete.

I can’t say I’ll miss either of the eliminated contestants.

I was also shocked at how BADLY a lot of people did on this, especially the flourescent paints. Some looked like they didn’t even try. Anthony’s was amazing and I was happy to see him finally show off his talents again. Glad that Megan went, even if she was the last girl. Her ‘design’ was atrocious and looked nothing like a Venus fly trap. Although, I was surprised Eric went home. We were all certain it was going to be House.

I agree about the fluorescent painting. With the exception of the winner, the rest looked like haphazard throwbacks to 80s splatter patterns. There was zero almost zero effort and it was horrible. I was just so disappointed though that Eric F. wasn’t able to finish his. I bet that would’ve been so spectacular. Unless there’s some serious misstep, it should come down to him and Anthony. I’d be happy with either win, but I think I’m rooting a bit more for Eric as the under dog.