He wasn’t hurt by it, he was tanked by it. :mad: I don’t know how Jerry has managed to hang on this long with his mediocre work. From his initial challenge, it was clear that Nix had some talent. I would have liked to see what he could do when not saddled with an anchor of a partner.
Starting last week, Mrs. Cad’s prediction for who is going home is “Whoever is stuck with Jerry. He’s a jinx.”
I wish someone would tell these models to stop the stupid looking broke neck thing. Even in tonights episode with the old folks makeup several tilted their head way over to one shoulder. Like they got their neck snapped. What’s up with that? Then two of the models way over acted. One nitwit stood their with their head tilted so far forward the makeup wasn’t visible. His idea of a 100 year old I guess.
More than any other show doesn’t this feel like an extended job interview? Seems like all these contestants are desperately trying to impress and get a job afterward. Film makeup effects is a pretty small field. There’s not that many places to work. Seems like some of the guest judges are sizing up these contestants and looking for people they can train and hire.
I can’t recall a more failed makeup than the middle aged lady makeup with the huge face creases. The judge was right when he said it looked like joke makeup for a Sat Night Live sketch. That was one ridiculous mess.
Surprisingly that was Becki. Usually she is an excellent sculptor. Despite her previous successes, she’d better get her head back in the game and get it right next week or she might be in serious trouble. Also a surprise this week was Sue and Jerry, who both pulled off a very well done sculpt. After weeks of mediocrity from Jerry and a couple of poor attempts from sue, I was pleasantly surprised to see them do so well. RJ pulled a rabbit out of his hat considering the circumstances. It is too bad his model had such a bad reaction; I would have liked to see that makeup on the person it was intended for.
I think the judges made the right decision this week. The leftovers should be strong teams for the alien creature challenge next week. However, they need to use their people in the right ways. Whoever has Jerry needs to use his experience, but not perhaps his design skills. I still think he is a lazy artist and doesn’t take enough chances in his designs. The team that ends up with Sue will need to reign in her emotional drama and ensure that she is actually working to her potential. She can sculpt! too bad it took this long to see it.
The contrast between Jerry and RJ was pretty hilarious.
Jerry’s ridiculous overconfidence about a makeup that, IMO, no matter what the judges thought, was merely OK (and his completely wrong statement that his was the only 100 year old that looked real), compared to RJ’s ‘well, it’s not terrible, I did what I could, I hope they’ll remember that and not send me home’ when his was damned good, even without considering the need for the model change, made me laugh my ass off.
Also, ‘were-chia’…not really a great description, but it does get across the point that, good goddess, the hair on that one was terrible.
And yeah, they definitely made the right choice here…I’d have liked to see Jerry or Beki go home, just because I can’t stand the level of arrogance that either of them carries as their banner, but…it was Heather’s week to get on the bus.
It didn’t help that last week Beki was a bitch and this week Tara was a bitch. Poor Sue-Sue, she always gets partners mean to her and it is never her fault.
She’s quite young. Sue has talent but still needs direction. She doesn’t have the gumption to stand up to stronger personalities yet; because of that, she makes a poor leader. The trick to managing her is not allow any of that attitude to even peek its head out at all. Include her, (but do not let her dominate), in the designs, use her strengths and make sure you give credit where it is due.
Jerry needs a similar treatment but for different reasons. His overconfidence and big personality needs to be reigned in during teamwork, particularly the design stage. OTOH, his experience is invaluable to a team that is younger and less seasoned.
This week’s episode was one I really couldn’t get a handle on. The uglify a model work was interesting. I’m mildly annoyed by one guy’s idea of what a librarian must be like (my sister is a librarian, and I know several), but given the premise he did have some good detail work that the judges commented on.
On the aging, I didn’t know what to think. I can’t fault the judges’ calls, and certainly agree the ones they thought were hideous were pretty bad, but I couldn’t get a good feel off any of the makeup, even the ones they liked. I agree the hair on the 50 yr old guy was dreadful. I think the concept of playing with the hairline was sound - I know 30 yr olds with more balding. But that guy’s hair was so thick, it wasn’t going back and compressing well, that’s when you have to make the call that the look isn’t going to work. Building up the head didn’t work, and the hair was atrocious. Were-chia was strange but accurately descriptive.
Also, they were right on the 70 yr old man’s hair being wrong. He wouldn’t go from a well-dressed and coiffed man to a shaggy guy like that. He might wear the leisure suit, and might be balding, but he’d still try something with the remaining hair or close crop it.
I am pleased the judges acknowledged the difficulties that RJ faced that were out of his control and beyond what the others faced, and gratified that they were able to see the skill he employed to recover despite the lost time and the different model.
I had a hard time seeing the connections between the guy and for the black lady. The white woman was the only one that I could see a progression on.
I was pleasantly surprised that Sue and Jerry got top looks this time. It shows they weren’t there by accident. I was also surprised that Beki’s turned out so bad. She normally does a great job, but somehow she bungled this sculpt and even she recognized it. Unfortunately, she didn’t know the prosthetics were bad until the end of the second day, so she didn’t have time to remake them. Still, she needed to do something to blend that lead edge better. That just did not work at all.
I was afraid to see the three bottom looks, because each has done well before, but Heather was the right call from this challenge. I wonder if the judges took each of those three’s past efforts into consideration when deciding which to send home. Beki has done superbly before, don’t know what happened here and it wasn’t anyone else this time, that was all her. Ian is done great work before, too, so being in the bottom look this time was not typical. Heather’s work has been okay but not up to their par.
I guess we’ll just have to disagree. Certainly the sculpting didn’t work, but the judges saw the same things, and they picked Nix because they said the paint job was the worse effect. They certainly could have chosen the sculpting as the worse effect, with the half shell that peeled off immediately or the face that was choking the model. Note that Jerry did try to suggest to Nix that his paint job was too bold, too comicky, and Nix didn’t listen.
It might have been interesting to see his work without a partner, but that’s the breaks - especially on the early shows. There’s just not time in the show itself for that many to be compared. Especially when they try to squeeze a Foundation Challenge in with a Spotlight Challenge. They could spend that 15 mins showing more of the sculpting and techniques on the spotlight events, but feel like the show paces better with a quick challenge and an immunity factor to weigh in.
It was evident in the first Spotlight challenge, with the Cowardly Lion and her carrying Athena. The lion head work was awesome, and the texturing and such. Then Athena bungled the body paint.
I thought for sure that Sue and Beki would do good work together, but apparently personality conflicts prevented them being a good pair. I thought Beki, Heather, and RJ would do well, but then they ended up working independently, each on their own model. And somehow Beki flopped.
I thought almost all of the make-ups for “make this gorgeous model look average” were ridiculous. It was aim for average, not make them into cartoon characters. So insulting to us average-looking people everywhere!
I didn’t like most of the aging make-ups either. What the judges were saying must be true - it’s hard to do aging well.
+1
The 3 picked as winners I would have had on the bottom so either I mis-interpreted the challenge or the makeup looked very different in person than in high-def. I thought the goal was to make the models “normal” so that you wouldn’t notice them (for good or bad) on the street. Apparently it was to make them look like they ran through a forest of ugly trees blindfolded.
Anyone else think that Eddie Murphy will hire Beki to do makeup on the next Klump movie?
Well, I do now.
Yeah, I noticed this as well. The judge actually rated them on some of the detail work related to their concept rather than the challenge as explicitly stated.
True enough. That is why I suggested upthread that they just start with fewer people in the first place. I think it would make a for a superiour show. Or perhaps even steal a bit from American Idol or Top Chef, and hold a vetted audition foundation challenge to earn the spots.
Cat Whisperer, Old age is hard because of a number of factors. First off, it is subtle. You can’t hide behind big prosthetics and cool designs. It has to look real, and that is difficult to do even with lots of time. The sculpts have to be anatomically accurate or they look weird. (see beki’s piece ) They have to be painted correctly and must use the model’s real skin tones and textures rather than a made up texture. Etc..etc..
It isn’t the hardest thing to do, but it is difficult and time consuming to do well; particularly the application phase of the work. I wouldn’t want to take it on given the constraints of the show. There just is very little room for error; and errors will occur on any old age makeup.
Yeah, I was really under-enthused about both challenges. The “plain jane” ones were just charicatures, and not really interesting.
The “old age” ones were kind of parodies. Its like none of these people have ever seen a 50 year old! I mean jeez, just look left at Jerry - he’s 43! Age him five years. Or look at Vi! She’s 60! Goodness, people, the flesh isn’t falling off of her.
Do something amusing - give the 50 year old bad plastic surgery, give her the huge lips and pulled back face. At 75, make it a charicature. at 100, give her a solid ceramic mask or something :).
I was not happy with any of this makeup.
This is what a 50 year old woman looks like.
I didn’t see anything even close to this last night.
I know, it was really abysmal.
I was kinda hoping they’d go for a different “story” with the “hippie chick” theme. Like, have her tanned at 50, then at 75 show the negative effects of excessive sun exposure, and at 100 maybe some melanoma removal scars.
Jerry certainly started out arrogant, saying he was going to win every single challenge… but more recently, someone asked him for advice, and he said something like “but hey, what do I know, I’m on the bottom each time”, which certainly earned him some points in my book.
That would have been a great idea.
Beki’s person was horrible. Just horrible.
I think the judges made some good calls this week, I loved Ian’s paint job & Race’s design. & I am glad to see my boy RJ in the top 3 again. The only change I would have made is to send Sue home instead of Tara. She has some talent but she is NOT cut out for this line of work, she is too fragile, plus she gets on my frikking nerves. And Jerry is too rude. In a real life situation you would not argue with a client the way he did. Although I will miss looking at him. I think he’s kinda cute. Beki went up a few notches this week. Not only was her design wicked awesome, but she defended Sue from Jerry, and Sue’s done nothing but run herdown since they worked together. And did anybody else think it was kinda messed up that they announced at the last second 2 people were going home?