You clearly had what I hope was merely a temporary lapse in reading comprehension when you read Bo’s post.
You must understand, The Leader, Himself, often speaks in parable. Like when he says “Go ahead, beat the snot out of that guy, I’ll pay your legal bills”, he is really making a shrewd and indirect reference to the relationship between law and violence. That’s like, totally parabolic.
And passing a new tax cut before November without Congress even being in session! Loaves and fishes, folks, signs and wonders…
The overall rate of migration is unchanged (as, say, a moving three-month average). There has been a small uptick recently in those specifically leaving Honduras, in part stemming from violence following disputed elections there.
As I mentioned upthread, this year more migrants are traveling in groups than before, to avoid being raped or robbed en route — though it should be noted that individual Mexicans (most rather poor themselves) often show great generosity toward these people.
Explosive Device Found Near George Soros’s Home in Westchester County
Spreading Soros caravan conspiracy theories is going to get someone killed. I’m looking at you Matt Gaetz but you’re not the only one.
Trump is demanding that the Central American countries start prohibiting their countries from coming the America, and if they don’t, he’s going to cut off aid to them.
1-How does a country even pretending to be a democracy stop their citizens from legally leaving the country?
2-The people are coming to the United States because of violence and poverty in their home countries. Does Trump think that by cutting aid there will be some miraculous economic revolution?
I’ve seen a bunch of this guy’s videos over the past few days and he thinks Trump’s comments are terrifying as well. The video is a talking head, a guy named Beau who lives somewhere in the SE US. I find his videos thoughtful, informative and well-reasoned; YMMV. I’m very glad he’s posting these videos. I think he has a good perspective and I hope more people watch and listen to him.
Bolding mine.
When the Mexicans were asked why they were helping these groups, they replied because they are humans.
I wish Trump would learn this.
This would be more plausible if he hadn’t repeatedly talked about other countries’ governments actively choosing to send or not send migrants to the USA.
Look at what he said about the diversity visa program, for example: “I mean we actually have lottery systems where you go to countries and they do lotteries for who comes into the United States. Now, you know they are not going to have their best people in the lottery, because they’re not going to put their best people in a lottery. They don’t want to have their good people to leave.”
Prediction: this caravan is going to fall apart starting November 7.
The timing of this caravan is totally suspicious. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I’m going with the people on page 1 who suggested this is a Republican sponsored event. Only, of course, not openly so. It shouldn’t take much to organize it, maybe a couple million $ and a couple dozen operatives, if that. The whole thing reeks of a concerted effort to get the Republican base energized.
If I had to guess what the hustle is, I’d say that we’ll eventually learn that this “caravan” is actually a pretty routine and unorganized movement of people, and that the suspicious timing is all in the portrayal of it as an unparalleled threat to the integrity of the republic.
Wait, this supposed caravan is just now crossing into Mexico from Guatemala? People know Mexico is big, right? Even if it stays organized and moves twenty miles a day straight toward Matamoros/Brownsville, it won’t get near the US border until around Christmas.
Good luck with that.
I agree. We didn’t even hear about migrant caravans until Trump was in office, yet apparently they’re an annual thing since 2010, and are more of a protest than some kind of actual migrant influx.
That said, I think that if they were what Trump and the GOP is claiming, then maybe they’d have a point to make. It’s not necessarily our problem that a bunch of people packed up, wandered through Mexico and showed up on our border. We may have humanitarian obligations to them, but we don’t have a legal obligation to let them in either.
I’m kind of stuck- we seem to be hamstrung every way we look if we don’t want to just accept every Central American immigrant who happens to show up. On one hand, we can’t just tell them to bugger off and leave it to the Mexicans, but nor can we go and clean house in Honduras either- they’re a sovereign nation, no matter how corrupt and lawless they may be. So how do we handle that? Seems like we’re damned if we do, and damned if we don’t.
Why isn’t anyone talking about the unknown Middle Easterners that are mixed in? I’ve seen suicide bomb vests strapped to unknown numbers of scary looking people in the photos.
Why do you rule out that first On-The-One-Hand option? Let’s say that we do, in fact, feel like telling them to bugger off; and, if they happen to be standing in Mexico when we tell them that, then, okay, by default it gets left “to the Mexicans”. So?
This is an excellent issue. Are countries legally and morally responsible for their citizens once they leave? I don’t know.
In this case, the Hondurans are illegally entering other countries.
If 7500 members of a white American militia decided to go colonize a part of Honduras, would the USA be obligated to bring them back or even stop them from leaving?
“[That’s] a canard and a fear tactic.” - Sen. Jeff Flake
First, is there actually anything happening? Those pictures I see on the teevee make me thing the right wing has decided to steal the “Crisis Actor” tactic…
No, you haven’t.