Poe’s Law (I hope!)
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It’s the humanitarian argument- if we have thousands of hungry, homeless people showing up on our doorstep, and said doorstep is a nation that’s rather dysfunctional and impoverished, is it the ethical and moral thing to just shut the border and tell them to fuck off? I don’t think so.
But it’s also not automatically our problem because these people just decided they wanted to come here either- we can’t be responsible for what happens to anyone who wants to come here, and who has bad stuff happen to them in the attempt, or who doesn’t follow the rules.
That’s why I said that we’re kind of caught- neither option is great for the US.
The real villain here is the Mexican government; they’re just passing the buck, which is shitty. This should be their problem- thousands of people just showing up illegally, but apparently they’re willing to just let them go.
I said Poe’s Law, people!
https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21280333&postcount=39371
I had not read this thread until now, but I indicated to a friend earlier via e-mail the possibility that this whole thing is an engineered Republican reelection ploy. Now I see other Dopers here saying the same thing. I was being sort of tongue in cheek but what gives the prospect some credibility is their outrageous behavior in other regards.
Everyone else figured it out. I wouldn’t worry about two who can’t.
I said “unknown numbers”. Zero is a number, isn’t it? I made a fact-free assertion, just like the president.
Yeah, sure. First, find a bunch of radical Islamic terrorists who speak Spanish. With a Honduran accent. A passing familiarity with Catholic customs and practices would help. Skin tone is about right, so that’s a plus. Blend right in. For maybe thirty seconds.
I hope it is temporary, but it remains. Especially with follow up posts like this:
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Again, Trump (or anyone else for that matter) is not saying that these countries should imprison their own people.
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Trump is simply demanding that we get value for our money or else it being cut off. If you could show me that the corrupt governments in those countries are investing every single penny of that money wisely, but damn, they just cannot seem to have a functioning society, then you have something. We have been giving money for years with no results.
Boy howdy, you’re reading a metric ton of complexity into what Trump means. He ought to hire you as his interpreter.
Well, apparently a lot of these people typically decide to stay in Mexico and apply for asylum there. No idea how likely those applications are to be approved. Possibly some of them decide to stay in Mexico illegally. But if the Mexican government doesn’t think it’s a big deal to have Hondurans moving to their country permanently, why should they object to just letting them pass through on the way to their ultimate destinations?
We don’t give money to countries to “get results”, we give it to them to help people.
It’s unclear to me on further examination what the Mexican government policy actually is.
This official statement sounds sympathetic to the caravaneers, but also says that Mexico has deported 400 of them. Clearly they could easily round them all up (or at least force them to disperse into smaller, less obvious, groups), and they aren’t doing that, so why pick on those 400 guys in particular?
It’s too bad for all these complex interpretations that Donald Trump is an actual person who keeps opening his mouth and giving the impression that he thinks all immigration to the United States is a perpetual Mariel Boatlift from every shithole country on the planet.
No one in this thread has made that argument. Congratulations on once again posting something completely irrelevant! You’re good at this!
No, that isn’t what he said. That’s your interpretation of what he said, one made without any reliance on his words at all. In fact, I’m suspicious that you just made the whole thing up yourself, just like Donald Trump makes things up. Because you can’t possibly know what he’s thinking, anymore than the rest of us can. But some of us are going by his words, not by our desires.
Who is this “we” you are referring to?
A star of David was seen on a truck where the migrant caravan was marching, and some of the marchers scrambled on board. According to the insane, this is proof, I tell you, proof, that George Soros is funding the caravan.
(warning, right wing sludge)
https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/whos-behind-the-migrant-caravan-invasion-george-soros-and-the-telltale-star-of-david
This brief post brings to mind several possibilities to explain it’s presence in the thread.
Love the insert from Wikipedia explaining to the reader what the “Star of David” is.