Fallout Vegas: Dead Money

So, this was just released, anybody play it? There are no reviews up yet and I’m contemplating picking it up.

Very likely.

Is it an expansion? I haven’t finished the original game yet…not because I didn’t like it (I loved it) but just haven’t had the time.

-XT

Yeh, it’s the first DLC.

I’ll be getting it then, though not sure when I’ll pry out the time to play any time soon. Maybe over the holiday, assuming I am actually able to get out of here for the holiday. Looks grim atm, but who knows? I’ll be interested in seeing what other 'dopers who play think of it though.

-XT

It’s only out for XBox360 so far. I guess Obsidian needed some way to fill their “being bloody morons” quota.

From the patch thread on the bethesda website, I’d say the consensus is that they already have. That they were talking about how great the new DLC was before they’d released the patch to fix things for those of us that were glitched out of finishing the game left a bad taste in peoples mouths.

That said, the game is up and running now and I’ll likely have the DLC tomorrow. If I do, and have time to play it, I’ll post.

It sounds like a side quest, so I assume it doesn’t extend the end? Once you’ve committed to a faction, you can’t play this?

Only for 360?! KOBAYASHI SMASH!!

It will come out later for other platforms, it’s just 360 pandering for now. Although some games like Bioshock 2 neglected to provide support for PC add ons later, so you never know…

It’s still annoying for them to do this when the PC is the only system that really does this series justice.

I’ll have to pick it up tomorrow, then. It’s nice to have a 360 right now.

So far only one review is in on Gamerankings. (7/10)

The review’s conclusion was:

I think maybe I’ll wait to see if reviews tend to confirm this and/or if Dopers agree. I may do the same thing as I did for Fallout 3 and just wait until they bundle a bunch of DLC together in a physical disc for 10 bucks, or whatever.

Don’t know about that. The save I started it on is all but done. I think it’s even past the presidents visit and I can play it fine.

Warning: I’ve only played this a bit. I’m level 30 (worth noting that it raises the level cap to 35) heavily invested in the sneaky skills.

First thing is of course they take away all of your crap. I understand the reasoning. Can’t very well have some high level geared go through curb stomping everything and then whinging on the internet about how easy it is any more than you can take the time to program it to be ridiculously scaleable in case some level 7 slips and falls in. What was disappointing was the big deal they make in the beginning of how you’ll have to make weapons and use knives and the like (encouraging me to grab every bit of scrap just in case), then turn around and give you a handful of guns, ammo, and explosives in the first place you visit. So much for having to be careful and wishing I’d spent more points in melee and repair skills. So far the biggest hardship is having crap armor and no sniper rifle. Hopefully that will change later on as I may realize that I won’t find ammo or my weapon condition will diminish with no spares for repairs.

They also make a big deal of how some of the enemies will get back up even after death. Sounds kind of neat, especially if supplies are as limited as they say they are. Once again, not so much. They only get back up if you don’t have the attention span to whack them a couple of times extra after they go down. That makes it permanent. That’s twice off the start where the game has had a lot of promise but seems lacking in follow through.

I will say that it has a very strong atmosphere. It’s spooky, and the characters seem good in my limited interactions. The only problem is that this expansion reeks of Bioshock. Mysterious voice leading you around a failed utopia filled with bizarre inhuman humans with everyone calling you a puppet. That’s certainly not a problem. I love me some Bioshock. It just feels like the part that they did well (the humor) seems to have been taken out behind the ole dark and gritty woodshed fer a good whuppin’. It’s not entirely out of place. Fallout has had it’s spooky and atmospheric moments, and like I said it is enjoyable. It just doesn’t feel like Fallout to me.

7/10 seems about right to me (even if I don’t see what the author was talking about with Fallout 3 DLC and “wow” moments. They seemed more like filler material to me, but to each his/her own). Thus far it’s fun. It just seems to be failing to live up on it’s promise and closer to a bioshock expansion dragged up from the depths and tossed into the desert.

I should also add that the DLC terrain/quests is usually only half of the enjoyment. There also has to be something good you take from the expansion into the rest of the game: more levels and fun gear like the chinese stealth armor, gauss rifle, and all the fun alien stuff from the various Fallout 3 DLC are fine examples. Yeah they utterly broke the game, but they were fun and made the rather short expansions they came from feel like less of a waste. On the other hand you have Point Lookout that added nothing fun to the rest of the game except for some fun new exploration based achievements like filling out the Point Lookout map. :confused: That’s great if I want to go on XBox live and prove that I have so much time on my hands that I wandered around an unnecessarily large map just to raise my gamerscore by ten points.

I’m not looking for any game breaking gear (though I wouldn’t complain if I found some). I just want the game to add something to everything else and not just be a brief diversion. To me, that would make it a waste of the $10.

Not so much A Review as An Internet Celebrity Snarks Very Fast With Accompanying Humorous Visuals, but here’s Zero Punctuation’s take on it.

That’s just a review of the game and not the expansion, but it’s pretty damn accurate to my experience. Enjoyable game but buggy. I do feel he got too hung up on the whole immersive experience thing.

Three reviews in, still at about a 7/10. Not buying it any time soon…

Well, from what you’ve said it doesn’t sound like it’s worth the full ten bucks. Oh, and, I really did like some of the Fallout 3 DLC stuff. Mothership Zeta was absolutely a horrible piece of crap, and Point Lookout was blah, but The Pitt and Broken Steel added cool content/weapons to the mix and that was fun. It seems that Dead Money does neither, and if the stealth aspects are anywhere near as frustrating as advertised, fuck it.

Also, I fucking hate the whole “you get captured and all your gear is taken from you” shit that some video games do. It only becomes slightly bearable in games like Deus Ex where you pretty much immediately get your gear back and not having it actually served to heighten the tension in a small segment, rather than make a whole additional area different. Blaaaargh.

Well, he’d reviewed the core game for Fallout 3 and Yahtzee really is more about entertainment than reviews. Doesn’t surprise me, at all, that he riffed on the only real substantive gameplay change between F3 and F:NV.

Be careful, there’s a glitch that means I’m going to have to start over, losing about 90 minutes.

Send Dog to the fountain, don’t have him travel with you! Otherwise the hologram man doesn’t recognize that 3 people are there. And for some reason you can’t talk to Dog, only go to the companion wheel. Frustrating!

Otherwise I’m enjoying it… and I get to play the first part twice!

Just finished this. My wife wanted it to increase her level cap and so we figured why not…

I have to say, honestly, this was one of the single worst expansions for any game I’ve ever seen (and I played DoW Soulstorm). Words alone cannot express how stupid the “hunt for tiny radio lights via trial and error again and again” mechanic is, and there’s simply no real payoff for the expansion as a whole. Honestly, my advice would be not to buy it unless you really want the increased level cap, and even then, they’ll probably release another expansion that also includes a level cap increase, so wait for that. All in all, crap.