Fallujah children's 'genetic damage'

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why are you still here then, pisting in the wind?
try this.
Ahmadinejad says expects U.S. to attack MidEast soon

“They have decided to attack at least two countries in the region in the next three months,” Ahmadinejad said in excerpts broadcast on the rolling news channel on Tuesday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100727/wl_nm/us_iran_ahmadinejad_attack

all the news sources are saying we are bout to increase our intrusions upon other nations,
you don’t see this?
which 1st, Pakistan or Iran, some other ‘lesser’
Yemen, Somalia, etc etc?; some other country.??

we are in way too deep to pull out.
empty dick in our hands. totally forlorn, no where safe to put it
$zillions poorer to no avail…
our folly is set in concrete.
i predict we will bleed out, they will spit on our grave, for our callous stupidity…
quite rightly.
but that’s just me.
Just like Vietnam, i thought we were lost before we even begun.
and again right here, right now. the same..
you doubt this is true?
we will slink away with our tail between our legs, whupped, despite our immense unholy firepower.
Yet still unable to realise we do not rule the world.
bewildered as to just why guns could never rule over ( other peoples ) ideology.

what i said was. we poisoned kids in foreign countries, we should pay…
simple as that.
it was the OP.

Zanthor

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That’s what I was going to ask you. Why bother posting all this nonsense? And not only that, why bother doing it in a way that makes it difficult for anyone to take you seriously?

Why the fuck would I believe him? Why would anyone with more than two functioning neurons believe him? He’s at least as much of a liar as any other politician and probably more, given that he says the Holocaust didn’t happen and there are no gays in Iran, for starters. And just two posts ago you were saying the Iranian government were Muslim fanatics who persecute the Baha’i. Now you think the president is a reliable source? Have you stopped to consider that he just might have his own reasons for saying something like this?

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I say, you’ve moved the goalposts so much in this incoherent excuse for a conversation that we can’t play ANY games for all the holes.

I say I’m anti-war, but I’m also anti-retard and anti-woowoo. The statement that the U.S. has used “WMDs” is retarded, given current evidence. The statement that WP and DU rounds are causing birth defects is unsupported and unsubstantiated woowoo bullshit. Anything Ahmadinejad says about the U.S. is unsupported, unsubstantiated bullshit, too, but at least he has a reason to spout off (because he’s trying to unite the anti-him factions in his nation against the U.S.).

If you think I don’t feel the pain of the people injured, killed, or displaced as a result of the Iraq war, you are deluding yourself into thinking your debate opponents are monsters. I do in fact feel their pain. I simply also enjoy smacking down a pissant incoherent flower child like you when you make up random bullshit about WMDs.

I have a pro-tip for you though: Try NOT drinking bong water before you post here.

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Let’s see… we have underreporting of cases prior to war, starvation, disease, God…

Given that the US won’t even take care of its own citizens who need medical care do you REALLY think the US will help anyone in Fallujah? Seriously, 46 million Americans don’t have any health insurance, that’s what we do to our OWN.

There is still research being done on the Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors, and it’s been, what, 65 years? So… six or seven at least?

I say you are unwilling to even consider something that doesn’t support your own preconceived views.

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Radon is currently considered the second most common cause of lung cancer after smoking: EPA report

About radon in homes

World Health Organization estimates up to 15% of lung cancer cases world wide are caused by radon gas

Feel free to continue laughing.

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Incorrect. You have not gotten the answer you wanted. That is because your perception of reality and actual reality are incongruent.

What is this “psting”? Is your spelling deteriorating along with your use of proper capitalization and punctuation?

I think differently because I use things like “science”, “logic”, and “evidence” rather than haiku and LSD flashbacks to analyze the world around me.

Frankly, I don’t give a flying fuck if they’re democratic or not - but then, I never approved of the current Iraq war in the first place. Been against it from day one.

We have done so. However, you seem to have a pathological need to feel guilty about birth defects in Fallujah. Unless you were part of an attack on that city I frankly don’t understand the depths of your guilt.

I haven’t killed anyone.

Apparently, you do not know what the work “fakir” means. A quick look in a dictionary gives the following: "a Muslim or Hindu religious ascetic or mendicant monk commonly considered a wonder-worker. " Thus, your use of the word in the context of your verbal gibbering makes no sense whatsoever.

If you really want to take “responsibility” for this I say… get serious! Go to Fallujah, in person, state you are responsible for the deformed babies, and submit to whatever the populace decides to do with you. I’m sure it will give them some satisfaction to have a definite person to blame and take out their emotions on you.

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Look, this may shock you but I have actually slaughtered and butchered an animal for dinner. Granted, I usually let the local butcher take care of the matter, but not only am I capable of killing an animal in order to eat it I have actually done so. This doesn’t bother me in the least. Well, OK, there is some mess to clean up but that’s not hard to take care of, just tedious.

So, clearly, we are operating from two very different viewpoints. Clearly, you assumed no one here was able to kill their own dinner, or that we’d somehow find butchering an animal to be a shocking or abhorrent thing. It’s not. A messy chore, perhaps, but then so is diapering a baby with diarrhea. I’ve done that, too.

Self righteous? No - just not pretentious.

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No, I do not see where it has been proven the birth defects in Fallujah are caused by the actions of the US.

There - I’ve answered your question again! Of course, I expect you’ll ignore that answer as well, just as you have done every other time.

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Ah - another ignoramus who is either unaware of or totally ignores the history of Buddhist generated warfare in Tibet! Not to mention the suppression and attempted elimination of the native Bon religion.

“Peaceable” my ass - like every other religion once they get into power they become repressive assholes.

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Hey, that’s not fair at all.

I mean, I have no power at all now as a Zen Buddhist, and I’m still a repressive asshole!

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Very well - you are the seed of the future Buddhist oppressive theocracy. :smiley: After all, it has to start somewhere…

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[QUOTE=Zanthor]
Billie Jean and Rubie Lee are Seals and Crofts.
speaks of a Kingdom, so far denied us, it seems.
see. Seals & Crofts - Wikipedia

it was a long time ago and far away, when there was still some hope that all would turn out right…
They spoke off a freedom long lost, but was promised.
[/QUOTE]
Invoking Seals and Crofts has just wiped out the last iota of respect I had for you.

Well OK, I didn’t have any respect for you before that, but if I had it would have vanished utterly.

We just have to face it, this time we’re through
(This time we’re through, this time we’re through
This time we’re through, we’re really through)
Breaking up is never easy, I know but I have to go

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What so ever things you choose to say about me, does NOT change the basic facts.

We, all of us, and all we do as we decimate the ME is suspect, just as with Agent Orange, was, is and wil lbe worthy of UNENDING worldwide derision, condemnation.
Contempt.

Right up until we so choose to address the incredible damage we have done, Vietnam, Cambodia, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc etc etc,
before these countries, EG all thro South America,
and after them, those that will ( soon ) follow.
eg. Iran, Pakistan, Nth Korea, etc etc.
China? Russia?
End Game, Armageddon?

the list is very very long, but with zero luster.
seems repetitious in the extreme to me…

Choose a country, tell me have how we have not messed with their internal politics, we that phase is done, we bomb, then invade.
All the while we say, its for their benefit, impose democracy, our style…

Consider this…

http://rt.com/Top_News/2009-11-18/birth-deformities-iraq.html

as i said, we are but children, minimal comprehension,
someone else is to blame, was not us, even tho we were the only ones in the house…
reminded me as it was when i was a kid, Mum was out, came home to find all the cookies eaten, her best china vases wrecked in some ’ foreign 'kids fight.
was not us, Honest…
When mum said, who did this, who is responsible,
my brother and i both insisted, it was not us.
we are innocent…
it was someone else…

so it is we these countries we lay waste.
we are innocent,
its their fault.
its for their own good.
etc etc etc.
so tell me, just who is pulling who’s middle leg…?
and getting zilch for their effort$, cept more death???
theirs and ours?

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My condolences. I know how difficult coping with severe head injury can be. The important thing is not to get frustrated with your new limitations.

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lol, actually, Stolichnaya.
no excess possible will reconcile how well fed we are and how we slaughter them.
SUV anyone? another stupid excess…

Can you try put your empathy button up a little higher.
I understand it appears totally dysfunctional for you but you could at least try to indicate some effort…

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2 examples for you.
the American native who was nearly exterminated by us, when he killed he gave thanks to the ‘Great Spirit’ for the life form he took and consumed,
he blessed north, South, East, West.

same with Islam, heck, many nations.
all cept us.
at least they understood the implications of Killing, i say again, most of us are oblivious…

we don’t seem to care what and who we kill, seems we are totally oblivious to Karma.
that was what i was saying.
as i thought before i posted it, i figured it was probably futile even thinking you would want to understand.
seems i was not wrong, at all

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sure, must of been Iran, right, of course it was them.
They hate us for ‘unknown reasons’ yeah, right…?

best we infiltrate them with all kinds of local anti Govt USA sponsored forces,
don’t matter too much how many of them local ppl have to die, so long as we provoke the ultimate good.
yet another Democratic USA inspired revolution.
the exact amount of their deaths is irrelevant, so long as the end result is good,
for us…a local Govt that is only favorable to us,
no one else…

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Invoking Seals and Crofts has just wiped out the last iota of respect I had for you.

Well OK, I didn’t have any respect for you before that, but if I had it would have vanished utterly.

We just have to face it, this time we’re through
(This time we’re through, this time we’re through
This time we’re through, we’re really through)
Breaking up is never easy, I know but I have to go
[/QUOTE]

are you talking about you and me, ok, fine, cop out, you said nothing much worthwhile anyway, if you are talking about our continuing war against the ME, GOD, i hope you are right, for their sake and ours…

no love for the promise the Hippie change offered huh?

that’s a shame, it was very worthwhile, right up until the greed and selfishness of trying to support a Narcotic illegal addiction caused…
Basic Greed, me 1st, all else NOT important, at all…
Main question you should be asking is, who exactly 1st introduced illegal Narcotics, that destroyed the Hippie love give all mentality, ion favor to the me 1st, only i am important, mentality…?

The world thinks America is addicted, much like a junkie to the me !st mentality.
and OIl…
How exactly are they wrong for thinking this?
Sheez, talk about changing goalposts, seems to me, just how inclusive do you want this debate to be?
seems to me most ppl are barely scratching the surface, strangely think they have contributed something worthwhile…
yet offering Nada, Zilch, Zero

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now, this is good,
sounds Australian, probably one of the least polluted Nato forces waging war upon the ME, yes?/ no?
eats shoots 'n leaves, sounds like a Koala Bear, an Australian, when meeting a new women eats roots shoots and ( then ) leaves…huh?

Cancer, birth defects soar after Fallujah battles

excerpt
From Tom Eley at World Socialist Web Site comes sobering news about the aftermath of the bloody American campaign to wipe out opposition there. The media’s cameras were kept out of the city during the campaign, which featured white phosphorous and large amounts of depleted uranium munitions. Mr. Eley’s story is also cross-posted at Axis of Logic, which features graphic photos. A BBC video story on the report is here.
article continues…

Zan.

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Well, i thought it was funny, sounded very much like the Wests intrusions into the ME, attempt to dominate, miserably, fail, but rape the crap out of Her, , then leave…
Persia, some much antiquity, recklessly trodden on, spoiled, wasted,
if it was not so incredibly sad it would be hilarious…

Saw a Vid today, ( Aljazerra ) of Obamba saying the military action in Iraq was over, ( to keep some crappy election promise ) to protect crappy ass,
Now the draw down of US troops,
His speech amazed me tho, “military victory in Iraq is not possible”, and the crucial bit, “it never was”
my thought was, so why did we invade in the !st place?
Blind Freddy could have told you this 10 years ago,
Bush Snr knew it…

talk about me shifting goalposts?,
Answer, not really, the central theme is our rape of the ME..
anyways, why should I adhere to the goalposts i tried to set? Most ppl did anything else but address the Topic.

I say again, is our reckless use of our WMD, causing Genetic Damage?