Fantasy draft tomorrow, how about some advice hya?

OK, been thinking a bunch about who to pick up early. A lot of people say go all RB early on, which I pretty much agree with, but I really see a large dropoff behind Faulk. Do you all think it would be that stupid of a move to pick up Owens or Moss if I end up with a late first round pick? Both of them have been incredible in the preseason, and I really can see either of them with 1500 yards/15 TD season. I’d consider picking up Alexander or Green, but not certain.

Also looking for late round steals. At RB, what do you all think about Foster for Carolina and Portis? I think whoever ends up being the starting RB for Denver could put up bigger numbers, but since we aren’t sure about who that is, I’m leaning towards Foster. At WR, I’m thinking of Javon Walker (will he be a starter?), Stokes, and Dez White. Any opinions? Thanka for you.

All I have to say is pick up Danny Weurfel(spelling?). He may not win too many games with Spurrier, but he’ll still pass for a bunch of yards every game.

I traded down from 2 to 5 in my league to get Kurt Warner. He is who I really wanted at 2, but I was able to move up in later rounds and still get him. Our league’s first 5 picks will go:

  1. Faulk
  2. Green
  3. Alexander
  4. Williams
  5. Warner

I don’t like going after running backs early, but you kind of have to if that is what the draft dictates.

As for a sleeper (kind of), see if Edgerin James falls very far. Going into last year he was a sure high first round pick, but he is of course comming off of a major knee injury. He should go in the second or third round I think, but if he comes back all the way from his injury he would put up numbers like a first rounder.

As for taking Owens or Moss as a late first rounder, I don’t think that would be too much of a stretch. If the they don’t go in the first, they’ll be gone in the second.

There’s always Terrell Davis! :smiley:

Seriously, an alternative RB would be Priest Holmes. Even with his achievments last season he may be considered a “sleeper” pick.

Portis may not play as much as expected (doesn’t Denver have a rep for first-year backs doing well?) by what I saw tonight.

Owens may be your money man, IMHO.

Portis looked great tonight, but I wouldn’t call either him or Foster a sleeper. Usually I figure a sleeper is someone who slips to round 7+. If either of them are on the board in round 6, grab them. (Of course, Portis’ status is very much in flux–it depends greatly upon the health of Olandis Gary)

How valuable backs are depends greatly on draft placement, scoring system, and size of league. In general, there’s Faulk, a dropofff to the next 3-4, then another dropoff to the next 8-9. I would gladly grab Owens in the first round. Moss I am a little unsure on, simply because I worry about the Vikings imploding this year. From the preseason talk, you would expect Moss to put up huge numbers, though, so I am sure someone will grab him early.

Personally, after Faulk I rank the top 2 QBs. Again, this can vary widely by scoring system.

Sleepers: try Brian Finneran and Ike Hilliard.

FYI, 6 points per TD, 1 point per 20 yards recieving/rushing, 1 point for 50 yards passing, -2 for fumble or INT.

For the past two years everyone has put off on drafting a defense until I have picked one, so I’m going to wait until round 8 or so and pick up Pittsburg.

Also realise that this is an 8 team league, so Portis and Foster should be avaialable past round 7. Thanks for the opinions. Another quick Q. If I DO manage to get the #1 pick, what’s the least that I should trade it for? There’s a big time Faulk whore in our league, so if I can get a 1st, 2nd, and maybe a 4th round pick offered, what would you do? Faulk is incredible and all, but if I can replace him with an Owens, George, and A Train, I would do it.

Hurm,
Faulk, Warner, Garcia Would be my first 3.
Alexander and Green are good RBs Yet, Dilfer is out for a little while in seahawk land, so early in the season 8 in the box against Seattle.
A.Green: needs to hold on to the rock, his fumbling problem is improving, yet the Starting WR’s in the system have yet to play enough to see how well Farve can keep the Op’s Defense honest.
E.George: is a good RB, he is Healthy and running well indeed.
P.Holmes: SHould do well this year, might not reach last seasons numbers, but no serious drop off either.
Do not forget C. Dillon at RB he is solid, on any other team he would be a HUGE star plus he has missed only 3 games due to injury in the past 3 years.
F. Taylor: Can be an interesting pick, The Jaguars are changing their offence to a more run oriented with play action, which means better numbers for Fred Of course, Fred has a history Of not making it thru the season. Pick up Mack in the late rounds if you draft taylor.
M. Pittman: He is primed for a damn good year, He has good potential to explode on the scene like P.Holmes did last year
L. Tomlinson: Should do well this season, he puttered out last year but that was more from missing most of training camp. Marty Shotts loves to pound the ball, Brees is good enough to give LT some running room.
R.Williams In Norv Turners Offense everyone runs for 1200 yards
Ricky is big and tough and sufferered less in injuries last year than he did his first two. Miami Def is solid so Williams will be running the ball a great deal to control the clock.

There are some of my thoughts on Random Running backs. I have to run to work otherwise I could go one offering my opinion for hours (ask mouthbreather).
best of luck int he draft

Thank you. Pretty much all of the fantasy experts are saying a huge dropoff in Tomlinson’s performance though, as he is having some injury problems in training camp and hasn’t looked particularly good when he has played.

As for your top three, I’m simply going to skip QB’s until the later rounds unless I can get Warner late in the first round as I did last year. In an 8 team league, even the worst starting QB should put up good numbers, whereas the same can’t be said for RB’s and WR’s.

Any other info would be appreciated, 4 hours left until the draft!

With those requirements I don’t think Moss is such a bad idea. 60 yard TD strikes aren’t too uncommon for him (when he feels like playing) Another Viking worth looking at if he slides is Bennet. Due to terrible coaching and play calling last year, he didn’t have much of a chance. I saw him at training camp and he is much improved. Most importantly, he now waits for his blocks to develop.

In my league (scored differently than yours it would appear)Quarterbacks are always the first to go.

Yeah, several of my league’s members had high expectations for Bennett last year and he ended up going in the 6th round. Since he had pretty poor year, I think I may be able to get him between the 6th and 9th. But it would take some good convincing to get me to draft Moss over Owens. Owens might act an ass, but he definitely shows up to play. Plus the chances of the 9ers season going down the tube are a lot slimmer than Minnesota’s.

So fess up, tell us who ya got.

ALso beware the “Randy Ratio” without spending all evening explaining it, he might be getting the ball his way mor often but expect most of them to be 5 yard shots instead of a steady stream of 35+ yards.

Also the Vikes have a poorer O-line than SF 49ers.
I would take Owens over Moss personally.
But both of them will do nice in a pinch.

And there she blows:

Warner
T. Green
E. George
Bennett
T. Henry
D. Foster
Horn
Mason
Booker
White
Conway
Jav Walker
F. Jones
Pitts D
Tenn D

Turned out to be a 10 team league. My team is filled by a whole lot of ifs. I was really pissed when I drew second, as other than Faulk, I didn’t much mind who I got out of the next tier. Any opinions?

Warner’s a stud, obviously, but I don’t like your backs.

I think George is back in form, but it’s 6-8 TD + 1100 yd form. Strong but not outstanding. Foster has looked good in preseason, but he plays for Carolina which means playing from behind for a team with receivers and a QB who scare nobody. I actually like Henry quite a bit, I just don’t believe in him (plus he could easily lose his job to Bryson before game 5). Bennet is a nice long shot, but I don’t remember the last pure speed back who hit it big after a mediocre rookie season. If he’s learned to catch the ball since last year, maybe. Still, 1 steady performer + 3 gambles isn’t that bad. At least 2 of your gambles are currently starting (and Foster likely will be before long, too.)

I love Horn, but assuming White is Dez White I question tying yourself to 2 Chicago wideouts. If Miller stays the starter the explosive play potential is limited, and they both risk losing catches to Terrel and Robinson (if he ever gets healthy). More importantly, though, this is Anthony Thomas’ team, now. Grind out like the good old black and blue. Mason is another gamble, but he has big upside if the Titans really are back. Conway is a half step ahead of retirement, but he’s good for a some production if you can hit the matchups right. Javon Walker may be worth something late in the year, but rookie receivers are pretty much dead wood through game 8.

Steelers D rocks hard.

Freddie Jones is as good a TE as any after Gonzalez.

Am I missing something, or do you lack a kicker?

Forgot the summary:

Warner is good for a couple of games all by himself. If one of your gambles comes in big, or if you know more about teh Bears’ wideouts than I, you should be competetive. Hard to say without seeing the other teams: it wouldn’t surprise me if you made the playoffs, but it would surprise me if you won the Super Bowl.

Then again, last year I only made the playofs in one league out of three, so what teh hell do I know.