Fantasy football general discussion

I also came in here to bitch about my fantasy Sunday (and, by extension, the Lions).

Me:
Matt Schaub
Randy Moss
Dwayne Bowe
Percy Harvin
Brandon Jacobs
Donald Brown
Marcedes Lewis
Lawrence Tynes
Mike Peterson (Atlanta)
Louis Delmas
Open defensive lineman spot


Joseph Addai
Felix Jones
Lee Evans
Mike Sims-Walker
Ray Rice (just traded for him for the return man/receiver for the Texans)

Now, I was slated to put up 141.83 points. Yay.

He started:
Donovan McNabb
Jerricho Cotchery
Justin Gage
Roddy White
Steve Slaton
Ahmad Bradshaw
Jason Witten
David Akers
D.J. Williams
Ed Reed
Trent Cole

He was supposed to get 134.74 points from that.

Instead, I got 128.5 points and he got 181.5 points. Not only that, but he started the fucking backup to my stud running back and got 32 points from that position. Roddy White gets 40 points? Are you fucking kidding me? Not only that, but I fell prey to the running back committee in Indianapolis again and started the wrong one. Ray Rice puts up 29.5 points and Addai gives me 25 more, but they’re both on the pine. Instead, I get 17 and 7 from Jacobs and Brown.

Feh.

Drew Brees is the correct answer.

I just have to interject something here. The use of “slated to” and “projected to” are, to my mind, a waste. They’re a made up way to try and add objectivity to any given week, and little more. It does suck when you have the clearly better team and lose. But that is fantasy football.

If you want to bitch about losing points/a week because you started a player who gets injured in the first quarter, I’m there for you.

If you want to whine about scoring the second most points in the league one week and losing because you played the guy who had the most, I’ll buy the beer and lend an ear.

If you are frustrated after losing to a pathetic team that happens upon one week wonders like Miles Austin or Mike Sims Walker or the 49ers Defense, I’ll listen attentively and agree.

Heck, I’ll even give you a pat on the back and a sad smile when your early draft picks inexplicably don’t live up to their position.

But losing because your guys didn’t score as “projected” any given week… meh, doesn’t do it for me.

The projections rank fourth in my bitching. Number one in my bitching is the guy starting the backup to my starting running back and trouncing me in pints off that position, two is the Colts backfield, third is the trade I sprang mid-week and didn’t start because I thought I played the matchups properly, and fourth is because I was slated to win.

The projections are just to give some perspective and it’s shorter than spelling the whole thing out. The projections obviously are some math-backed speculation, but they aren’t totally worthless - I would guess that using yahoo’s projections, if a team leads by 10 points or more they win a vast majority of the time.

How about just saying I lost to the 2nd lowest scoring player that week using the roster I posted above?

Well, except Pierre Thomas was on a bye and I had Marion Barber in his place instead.

I understand. It wasn’t meant as an attack on you (or Senor Beef), it was more a general statement (and mostly aimed at a guy in my money league to be honest who was bitching that he lost because Brandon Marshall, Addai, and Romo outscored his Wayne, McGahee, and Brady).

And I want in on a league where you get pints instead of points. Damn, I’d never be sober.

Well, be careful what you wish for. They’re pints of moose jizz.

That means you scored the least, true? I’m having trouble getting on the bus for that one. MJD’s down week, I’ll certainly give you, but Garrard falling back to reality, Moss getting shut down by Bailey, Boldin not getting into the endzone, and no huge scoring from the other positions is not out of the ordinary. You put a lot of eggs in the Jaguars basket and it didn’t work. I sympathize, but it doesn’t reach the level of getting screwed over like the ways I listed above. Of course, YMMV. And it should.

I hate you. I hate you A LOT! :smiley:

Any one or two or even three of my players having a bad day is not unusual. They all had a bad day, every single one of them. David Garrard putting up 3.9 points is not “returning to earth” - yes, he scored 30 points last week. No, I didn’t expect himt to score 30 points this week. But he’s a high floor guy - he almost always puts up at least 10 or 12. His average was 19 coming into this game, and he scored 4.

MJD averages 20 points a game, and he scored 8. You’d think that if Garrard had a bad day, at least that meant that MJD would’ve had a good day since someone has to be putting out the offense. Except the Jags got shut out for the first time in years. Did anyone expect a Jags shutout? Any Jags TD, even just a garbage time TD, would’ve won me the game.

Between Moss and Boldin, you’d think someone would have a 10 point game - Boldin especially since he was in a shootout.

Barber should’ve ripped up the KC defense, especially with Felix Jones out, but didn’t. Jeff Reed never got a chance to kick a field goal because Pittsburgh scored a TD every single time.

If you want to take projected score out the window, just look at average scores. My players all performed massively below their average score, except Boldin - but his average is low because he was hurt the first few weeks of the season. If just any one of them had reached their average score, I would’ve won by a healthy margin. It took every single player putting up far less than their average to lose.

Is it? Why?

Week 1: Brees 44 / Manning 9
Week 2: Brees 24 / Manning 21
Week 3: Brees 2 / Manning 16
Week 4: Brees 5 / Manning 22
Total: Brees 75 / Manning 68

Brees was absent versus the Jets and Buffalo, and the Giants are powerful defensively (best passing and overall defense in terms of yards-per-game). Manning has been steady, but he hasn’t been tested in 3 weeks. I don’t think it is as easy a choice as many might think.

Manning isn’t fully healthy, and the Giants haven’t played anyone with a good offense yet (and I include the Cowboys in that number). Brees was a first round pick in almost every league. You just don’t sit that guy if he’s healthy.

I am leaning towards Brees, mostly because he was such a high pick and has more potential. The Saints will be the Giants toughest opponent thus far this year. The only other challenge the Giants faced - Dallas, which you discount - was far more effective on the ground (I’ll be using Pierre Thomas in one of my leagues), though. And when faced with a strong pass defense and rush, against the Jets, Brees turned into a “game manager” (which is the knock against E. Manning in FF).

Manning’s foot problem is being overplayed, thanks to the hyper NY media market. Given the absence of a workload this past Sunday, it will be a non-issue.

If New Orleans gets an early lead, then Manning will be the better play, and vice versa. If the teams are trading leads, then they will be about equal.

SenorBeef, i understand your frustration, but if you really think that you have such an “awesome team” (your words), then you should just suck this one up and move on. You’re sounding like the poker player who bets a full house and gets beaten by a four-of-a-kind made on the river. It just happens sometimes.

If the poker player really is making bets with the odds in his favor, he’ll win more often than he loses. And if your team really is as good as you say, then its quality should be reflected in your results over the length of the season.

You’re right, and I wouldn’t be so irritated with one week if I wasn’t also 1 and 4 and in 12th place out of 12. Partly due to bad luck - my 5th round pick was out for 8 weeks a few minutes into the first quarter of the first game, my QB went down in the middle of week 2 after scoring 5 points, etc.

You can infer from that that my team sucks - but just look at the roster - does that look like a bad 12 teamer roster to you?

Huh? We knew the Colts backfield was going to be a mess this season. Hell - we knew this was going to be a mess ever since Edgerrin James left. The Colts have had a mixed backfield for several years running now.

Bad? Not at all. Definitely not 1 and 4. But I don’t know how awesome it is. Slightly above average would probably be a better description.

You’re nuts! That’s the greatest damn roster that mankind has ever seen.

Edit: I had the highest projected score out of 60 lineups so far this season. Next week I do it all again by having an even higher projected score - which will then be the single highest projected out of 72, in back to back weeks.

If I lose next week, I’m going to suicide bomb someone. Not sure who yet.

Without Matt Schobel? Hardly!

This is my starting team

Joe Flacco
Donovan McNabb
Steve Smith(NYG)
Santonio Holmes
Larry Fitzgerald
Maurice Jones-Drew
Chris Johnson
Brent Celek
DeSean Jackson
Marion Barber
Nick Folk
Joe Nedney
Seattle
San Francisco
Antoine Winfield
Justin Tuck
London Fletcher

This team lost to a guy who started 5 guys who were on bye weeks this week. (Yes, it is a crazy 6 person league with weird scoring)