Fargo S1E9 [Open spoilers]

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My comment may have been poorly phrased. I didn’t think the story was “true”, just that, like much good fiction, I could accept it as plausible. But the elevator shootings were a camel-breaking straw in my disbelief suspension. (I was bemused by my own reaction, since there was much implausibility long before Episode 9.)

(Many based-on-fact movies annoy me, as neither good fiction nor good fact. An example would be Into Thin Air, an excellent non-fiction book by Jon Krakauer, but which was made into a mediocre movie.)

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Fwiw, I read it as the most visceral example yet of the consequences of Lester’s choices, and he still doesn’t get it.

Obv. it’s not a consequence in the normal world but, given Lester’s previous relationship with Malvo, he knew it was not going to end well if he made the choice he did - there was absolutely no need for those people to die, excepting Lester’s hubris.

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No, the first was 6/10.

After re-viewing the episode I did withdraw the JTS accusation though. Great, great series.

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Callling out the Coen’s, BBT and Martin Freemon for being involved in bullshit - at half way distance: Impressive even by SDMB standards :wink:

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No, there’s nothing unrealistic about a man who kills for pleasure killing a “hot-looking” fiancée.

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I thought I heard bonus, but it could have been bounty.

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I just watched the scene again with closed captioning on. The word was bounty.

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I would like to clarify my prediction as to the Fargo finale this Tuesday night.

In an earlier post, I predicted that Gus would defeat Malvo - either by killing him or by ensuring he went to prison for a very long time. After thinking things over, I need to change that prediction.

In Episode 9 we saw two scenes that came one after the other. In the first scene, Gus was in his mail truck delivering mail. Then, in the very next scene Gus was standing in front of Molly’s whiteboard with a rather pensive look on his face.

My prediction is based on those two scenes. In the first scene, we saw Malvo in his red car drive by Gus. It wasn’t clear whether Gus recognized him because his appearance was very different from the previous time Gus had seen him. However, I believe that Gus did recognize Malvo and he came to a decision that he would never again permit Malvo (or anyone else) to bully or threaten him regarding his wife Molly or his daughter or his unborn child. I think he came to the decision that he would fight to prevent that and maybe even die if necessary.

So, if Malvo or Lester (or anyone else) should threaten Gus or his family in the final episode this season, I predict that Gus will not back down and permit that to happen. Instead, he will fight (to the death if necessary) to prevent that from happening. That might mean using a gun to shoot the threatener or using his brain to arrange for the police to arrest the threatener and ensure they go to prison for a lengthy term. If I’m not mistaken, the death penalty was removed from the books in all 52 states sometime around 1978. So, the most likely scenario would be that Gus will resort to violence in order to protect someone from doing violence to his family.

Be that as it may, it should prove to be wonderful to see Gus stand up to Malvo or Lester or the lamebrain Chief of Police and fight it out to protect his family. However it turns out, Gus should prove to be a hero - just like we always knew he was. Good for you, Gus!

Won’t it be wonderful to see Malvo finally get his just deserts? Especially if that includes someone doing some mischief against him. After all the times that Malvo has suggested that one person tell another to do some mischief against an innocent third party, won’t it be wunnerful to see someone do some mischief against Malvo that results in some real serious shit happening to Malvo? I think it would and I just know that I would enjoy it most immensely!

Regardless of whether it turns out that I’ll be right or I’ll be wrong, I want to tell you all that I have found this season to be most enjoyable - especially the discussions we all have had together on this board. In most cases, you all have provided some very considerate and intelligent debates here on this forum and, as a result, I have enjoyed discussing this show more so than just about any other show on this board. I want to thank you all for your very engaging discussions and I surely do hope to see you all next year!

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There are only 50 States and quite a few of them have the death penalty. It was eliminated in 1972 but reinstated in 1977. That said, individual states are allowed to decide for themselves and Minnesota is one of the seventeen states that does not have capital punishment.

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Accepting (if you will) that Malvo’s life philosophy is about testing people confronted with dilemma - of his creation mostly - the choice they make and the consequences, I’m guessing we will see the tables turned in E10.

I like Charlie Wayne’s idea of Gus being the confrontational force, redemption is always a popular theme in drama and, besides, it ties in with Molly’s relentless pursuit.

Of course Gus doesn’t need to feel bad. Had he not made the correct choice when Malvo offered him the dilemma he would be dead and his daughter an orphan, he just thinks he made the wrong choice (conversely Lester always makes the wrong choice).

So, yes, maybe Gus will bag Malvo. Which leaves the way open for Molly to nail Lester … maybe those two FBI guys will interview Lester’s nephew or Mr Bandages from the hospital.

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Oops! Sorry. What a bozo, huh?

I don’t know what I was thinking. I just woke up and my brain was still asleep. Please forgive me?

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Mr. Bandages!

You just keep getting better and better! Well done, sir (or maybe Madam?)

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I am a ‘he’, Charlie Wayne :slight_smile:

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OK. That is probably good. If you were a “she”, I’m afeared people would think you were a real dirty slut! (because of your fornicating name).

But, since you are a “he”, people will think you are a real “stud”. Yes indeed! Thank goodness for that double standard! Don’t you think?

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I vastly prefer the company of lady sluts.

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I realized just today that Gus, Colin Hanks, is Tom Hanks’ son. :smack:

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The hitman listening to his Greatest Hits.*

Dramatically speaking, it would be amazing if the story ends with Gus having little or nothing to do with Malvo. He must defeat Malvo, or die–or both.

*Reminds me of the novel on which Bladerunner was based, Philip K. Dick’s “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?” Almost certainly the title-idea came first, and then Dick came up with a plot to fit it.

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This is organized crime and a lot of the people working here are going to be the types of people you see in head offices of organizations–such as accountants. Many of the people engaged in violent activities will be elsewhere.

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They clearly were that day - off site trust building exercise perhaps?

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What was up with Chaz’s gun collection? Had they established him as a gun freak early on? And was he in possession of something illegal?