Fargo Season 5 discussion (Starts 21NOV2023)

I’ll admit I teared up at the closing scene.

Me too. Even more when Lorraine and Dot shared the embrace.

The streets and life with Roy taught her to be incredibly resourceful and able to improvise.

I loved the final episode. Some thoughts:

You really can’t get far trying to cross farmland with no eyesight. You’re bound to trip on a rock or clod of soil, step into a drainage gully, or walk into a tree or more likely into a fence. Your best bet if you can only hear or smell is to walk towards the sounds or odor of cattle and hope you make it before you freeze to death.

Faced with a maniac with a knife when you have a gun, and there are no witnesses, just shoot the bastard. I was hoping he would shoot him in his pretty face - that would stop him cold. Those thoughts made me realize how much they made me hate Jon Hamm’s character. I relaxed and laughed when he thought he was, free only to be surrounded by the law.

The Vaseline line made me cringe; there are a couple reasons why it wasn’t needed at all. I did want more from JJL this episode

The entire “biscuit” closing act was wonderful (and presented without commercials, which seemed longer than usual; thank goodness for fast-forward). I don’t know if it was the mournful music from the original movie, Juno Temple’s calm and even-tempered acting, the redemption story, but most likely the quiet looks and reactions of the daughter. I need to watch that final scene again!

I rate this season the best of the TV seasons, nearly as good as the original movie.

Linky?

That could well have been natural.

I almost felt sorry for Gator. Almost.

Did Linda actually find her, or was that just a dream?

Well, he was eating sin in 1522 in the Uk, so likely not before columbus. Right after him, maybe . But Jamestown wasnt until 1607, so he could have been in North America “before the muskets”, and found a wild Spanish horse.

I would have loved to see those militia guys get taken down.

To me- second best by a nose. Martin Freeman, Billy Bob Thornton in S1. But yeah, very very good.

I think folks might be confusing when Europeans got to the Eastern shore of the USA with when they got to the the plains in large numbers. It was after the civil war that the army really started clearing that land, I think?

To be fair, Coen Brothers films may also invoke the supernatural from time to time.

On a related note, I felt like the resolution of the Munch storyline saved the final episode. Episode 9 was a bit weak, and episode 10 very quickly disposed of the Roy story line, but the final scenes with Munch (and echoes of No Country for Old Men) was a high point. A nice mix of humor and tension in how directly they dealt with Munch, as if one encounters immortal mass murderers preaching on sin and debt every day. It also made me think of that scene in Monty Python’s The Meaning of Life, with the Grimm Reaper interrupting that dinner party.

Trooper Farr ain’t (or wasn’t) that kinda guy. A nice guy, sure, but also the type to stand in the open air under a light, gazing out into the darkness even as he knows a pair of gunmen are after him. Damn fine way to be shot (as he actually was) by an unseen foe, taking careful aim from beyond a veil of darkness.

So, a genuinely nice guy, yes, and by now means lacking in courage. But definitely not a gunfighter.

I liked that hug between Dorothy and Lorraine. Lorraine managed to almost display affection, what with patting Dorothy on the back. And when Dorothy, Scottie and Indra were at Witt Farr’s grave, it sounded from their conversation that Dorothy didn’t attend the funeral. I think she would have, along with Wayne, Scotty and maybe even Lorraine.

What did Lorraine slide across the table to Roy? I wasn’t that close to the TV and it looked like a pack of cards.

Cigarettes

My favorite part of the last episode is how Munch kept trying to go into his “a man is” spiel, only to be constantly interrupted by being told how to help out in the kitchen. His expressions were priceless.

I took the part about Linda finding her as a child in the market to be a true flashback.

The little annoyed gesture when Squirt showed him where 1 cup is on the measuring cup. It was priceless! The man is a genius.

Question for Coen experts: Has anyone besides Jennifer Jason Leigh and Billy Bob Thornton appeared in both the Fargo TV series and a Coen movie? (She was a fast-talking reporter in The Hudsucker Proxy; he was the lead in The Man Who Wasn’t There.)

Ha, yeah, I got a very NCFOM Anton Chigurh vibe at first, as well. But the way they played it, the humorous redemption arc for Munch (Moonk?), was a nice counterpoint to the violence of everything in the show that proceeded it.

It occurred to me that, with Munch’s obsession with debts to be paid, Dot could probably get him set up with her MIL Lorraine collecting debts. He could start out in the call center…

“Hello?”

“A man has a debt to be paid, because he overextended himself on a new Lexus which he cannot afford. A debt must be paid, if not in money, then in blood. Can the man afford to pay anything while I have the man on the phone?”

“Yes! Let’s do the money payment, not the blood!”

It was a very “Sheldon” hug, right down to the barely sincere “there, there.”

My favorite moment was the delivery of the orange “pop”, and then the < clink >. :laughing:

BTW at the end, should Wayne have picked up on Dot”s unease and tension on seeing the visitor?

Nah, that was in character for him. He’s very deliberately made to be the things Roy Tillman is not. Good father, good husband, not especially aggressive, etc. It would make sense that he defaults to expecting people to be generally good and decent.

He almost certainly knows something is ‘off’ but I would think he would want to try to help both Dot and Munch in that case rather than suspect he desires to commit terrible violence against his family