Which fathers, Stassia? Give me some real world examples involving people that you actually know.
I will further note that there are enough date-raping, mendacious scumbags out there that even a young girl with good judgement can end up in a bad situation. It never hurts for the smiling sociopath who picks her up at your home to consider his actions later in the evening in terms of his own self-preservation.
That’s why I always make sure to keep my gun loaded when I end up in black parts of the city.
Then you’re an idiot.
I keep mine loaded in all parts of the city because criminals come in all colors, ages, and both sexes.
It is not difficult to see that I lift - I have rather large shoulders and arms.
And my daughter likes to tell her boyfriends about the black belt, just to see their reactions.
No shit, Sherlock - of course I am in control, not him. I set the rules - I’m the grown up.
Duh.
Not sure how you got that, so I will assume you made it up.
Not that it matters all that much - anyone dumb enough to believe that because I love and would protect my daughter means the rule of law no longer applies is likely to be wearing an orange jumpsuit before long.
This is assuming he is still capable of walking after challenging me.
You remember what I said earlier about daughters who don’t know what a normal relationship with their father is like? Those people are people whose advice on what I should be doing is easy to dismiss.
That’s one of the worst harms a dysfunctional father does - his children often don’t ‘get’ what normal is like.
One of the advantages of having me as a father is that my daughter has me as backup.
It isn’t just my boundaries. It is that, if my daughter draws a line, and Mr. Right sets one little teensy toe over that line, there is someone waiting in the wings with a marked lack of interest in excuses, and in the integrity of his pimply little hide.
That’s another part of the message. My daughter is not alone. She does not have to wait until the weekend, or for two weeks in the summer, to talk to me, or have me help her with her problems, whatever those might be. I’m right there.
No, what’s pathetic is that you need to resort to false dilemmas.
I am perfectly capable both of trusting my daughter to speak up if she feels the need, and to make it clear that if she does feel she is being mistreated, there is someone who is willing - nay, eager - to do whatever is necessary to make sure that said mistreatment ends.
And is regretted.
Regards,
Shodan
That’s true, based on this thread I would certainly keep mine loaded around you.
Are you admitting that you are a pedophile? You like to molest little girls? Clearly, that must be the case if what I’ve said in this thread makes you feel like I might harm you.
Great balls of fire. You’re the freakshow bringing vajayjays into this.
I’d hate to have hung around your house when you went out on dates.
“Daddy, this is Bobby. He’s taking me to the prom.”
“Bobby, I expect you to have my little girl home by midnight, and if you don’t … I have a gun.”
“DADDY! LEAVE MY VAGINA ALONE!”
Jokes people. Unwind the friggin’ undies a little and relax.
I can think of four people in the Navy (mid 90s, one cleaning guns, one loading rounds, and one sharpening katana, the other was a lot more elaborate), two people since I left the military (guns and knives in both cases). In high school, there were a couple of girls whose dads pulled this kind of joke-but-serious dominance crap.
Would any of them have followed through? I doubt it, although some insisted they would go to jail over it.
Jonathan
I just don’t trust creepy fucks like you. I’m probably just being overcautious, but people with your mindset cross the line frequently enough that you just can’t be too careful.
Eight more years of posturing like you are here, and she’ll still love you, but she won’t tell you shit.
There are fewer than you think. I’m not saying they don’t exist at all, but the reality is more that teenagers are horny and that they want to fuck each other. That includes the girls.
That’s why the jokes aren’t funny.
Because Shodan really does think that he controls his daughter’s vagina, not her.
Yeah, what could I know. I only grew up with a father like you.
Well, aside from the fact that it should be her boundaries with respect to what lines she’s not willing to cross, but what happens when she wants you to stay out of it?
And you’re absolutely sure she tells you everything.
Why else would Rambo Dad be so damn concerned about mentioning that he has a gun?
Because it’s a joke, for fuck’s sake.
I don’t know what happened to you to fixate on vaginas so intensely – you usually only see this kind of obsession with teenage boys (he says, nicely dovetailing the issue) – but you can get help you know.
Actually, yes it does. If you succeed in intimidating her high-school boyfriends, then no boys in her high school will want to date her, and certainly not the “nice boys” you’re hoping she ends up with. She will have to lie to you, and tell you she’s with her friends and then go out with whatever boys she can get, and will probably wind up drunk and alone at a frat party at a state college.
Well if you actually do have a gun and the kid actually is afraid you’ll use it on him, that’s not a joke that’s a terroristic threat, and it’s a crime.
Why do you think you kicking their asses is more of a threat than going to jail? And for the record, I always told my wife that if we had daughters I would insist they learn self defense, because I think she should have complete control over her body.
Because one message that comes from these things is the only thing standing between your daughter and ravaging perverts is the threat of your guns/knives/muscles/etc
If your daughter know you’ve got her back, that’s great. I have no problem and even encourage that. But if the only way a father shows that is by trying to physically intimidate her dates, I think the message is more than a little warped. Besides, if you daughter starts dating rapist assholes, how many can you beat up before you end up in jail? Or are you implying that those extra reps and katas will help you dial 911 faster?
Jonathan
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It also says that without him, her date would control her vagina. That is what I find so creepy. It comes off as if the daughter is nothing but a piece of territory they are are vying for.
Yeah we know the hierarchy-dominance crap is silly and blah blah blah. Continue discussing it with your Feminist Studies professor and leave the thread alone.
Because obviously I must be some teenage women’s studies major.
You couldn’t be further from the facts there, bud.
You I think I am beginning to see the humor. It is pretty fucking funny to think of a middle-aged man going through all of this macho posturing bullshit, in order to show off how he’s more ‘manly’ than a goddamn adolescent.
Please indicate how we are supposed to tell its a joke. Shodan doesn’t appear to be joking. These creepy fucks aren’t joking.
catsix does seem to be fixating on the vagina thing, but I can see why she is. The attitude that your kid a some kind of prize you have to keep away from the invading Mongol hordes does have that implication.
Because I can’t think of any other reason for the extreme level of over protection, even as a joke, that is being suggested.
What is it that could be so horrible that we need to joke about having a chainsaw running when a boy comes over? Why the joke about putting a bomb collar on his genitals if it’s not about protecting the almighty hymen?
What exactly are they trying to protect?
ETA:
Yep. Nothing to do with vagina.
No, see, that’s the problem. I’m nothing like your father, and (therefore, at least in part) you are nothing like my daughter.
You’ve never had a healthy role model. That’s why you are reacting as if it were your father posting.
That’s why you keep mentioning my daughter’s vagina. You are trying to get me to react the way he did, by being shocking. But that doesn’t resonate with me, just like the fact that I can love and care for my daughter without feeling like I own her doesn’t resonate with you. You don’t ‘get’ it, like I said.
It’s sort of like how we all could tell Strassia has no daughters without being told. The fact that you can’t empathize with something shows that you likely never experienced it. That’s probably why he is trying to force my posts into the kind of narrowly false dilemmas catsix has already failed with. It’s one way of dealing with an emotional blind spot.
It’s too bad, but the loss is yours.
Come on - you aren’t really that stupid, are you?
Regards,
Shodan