I don’t know that I’m understanding this correctly but this sounds like whole genome sequencing for personalized medicine. Hopefully there will be some splashy news stories on this.
These sequencers have been in use for quite a while now - this is just the FDA approving them for certain commercial uses. It’s a regulatory advance more than a technology advance. If you link to the article, I might be able to better figure out what this means.
Sorry about that. I haven’t been as focused as usual lately. Long story.
I imagine these sequencers have been around for a while but if you read this related story, maybe not. Isn’t this MIDAS tech fairly new?
Another thing is it looks like these will be use for whole genome sequencing, which I’d thought was still a few years away for medical purposes.
Sequencing technology has been advancing extremely rapidly in the last decade. A number of systems have been commercialized since about 2005 that are now referred to as “next generation sequencers”. The news is not about a new sequencer, but about the FDA approving certain applications of these sequencers for use in medical diagnostics.
From this link:
Illumina has other NGS instruments, including the MiSeq, and other companies have their own NGS platforms and chemistry for research use only.
I was curious as to the difference between the MiSeq and the FDA-approved MiSeqDx and found this on their website:
My emphasis.
I’ve never used a MiSeq, so I’m wondering if the Dx version is the same instrument just rebranded and that the disclaimer is for FDA approval.
I’d suspect the technology is the same, but it’s being very carefully packaged in a way that makes it clear that you’re not supposed to use it for whole genomes. I used to work in a clinical genetics lab, testing human DNA for mutations, and we used kits all the time that said “For research purposes only. Not for clinical use.” In practice, all that meant was that our company was responsible for validating that our tests worked, instead of the company that made the kits.
Regulations are weird.
How can a next-gen sequencer even do anything resembling “targeted sequencing”? Does the software just throw out the non-target sequences? Or are there “nothing to see hear, move along” annotations across 99% of the genome?
Proprietary targeted primers, perhaps?
I suspect it’s the same instrument and it’s a branding/regulation thing. It looks like the same instrument in the pictures on their website. I haven’t really taken a deeper look, but why make two MiSeq instruments? I think the MiSeq is the smaller and cheaper version of their HiSeq platform. The MiSeq is advertized as being able to do “small genomes”, probably because the total input to be sequenced is smaller than what the HiSeq can do.
There’s another thread about 23and me and the recent FDA ruling came up (although that’s genotyping by microarray and not NGS). Basically, the FDA told them to stop selling their genome testing service and making health recommendations because the FDA had not approved it for that purpose.
I believe you can target specific regions when the cDNA library that will be sequenced is made. You make the library from your source DNA–adding sequences that can act as PCR primers and barcodes to sheared fragments of the preferential size, basically, and it’s this library DNA that is sequenced.
Using their Nextera Rapid Capture Custom Enrichment Kit, they say you can:
So, you don’t have to sequence the whole genome, but instead you can look at regions of interest that you “enriched” in making your library:
So, for this FDA-approved assay, it looks like you sequence the region containing the CFTR gene.
This make sense for a assay looking for variants in a particular gene. Instead of wasting reagents on the rest of the genome, you sequence the same region many, many times. Errors are made in making the libraries–noise, due to the error rate of the enzymes, and with deeper coverage you can get a stronger signal to address whether that SNP is a mis-incorporation of an nucleotide by the polymerase, or a real variant that shows up multiple times in the exact same spot.
I haven’t done NGS myself, but I image early errors would be more noisy, though.
I don’t think that’s the only point. The article mentions that the same gene can be expressed differently in different tissues. From my MIDASlink earlier.
Gene expression is something very different than genome sequencing. Of course genes are expressed differently in different tissues–that’s why they are different tissues; the cells that make them up express different genes. And the same gene can certainly show different expression levels in cells within and between tissues. Some gene expression varies by time of day.
Sequencing can potentially tell you why genes are expressed differently–does a tumor suppressor gene promoter have a deletion that makes it disfunctional, or does an expressed protein have a mutation that makes it too active, or has a region of DNA been duplicated and is expressing a gene from multiple copies?
It don’t have access to Nature Biotechnology, and the article came out this month:
This is great, but not what the FDA has approved for genetic testing. As they say themselves in the last sentence, it may have potentially further applications.
One application that immediately comes to mind is the genomes of cells in a tumor, which can be notoriously heterogeneous.
I do understand the difference between sequencing and expression. Did I say something to make you think otherwise or do you assume everyone who is a layperson is clueless? Just curious? Not to brag but I happen to have 2 advanced degrees they just don’t happen to be in scientific areas (if you’d like to check my profile).
My point was that a particular gene can be implicated in more than one type of disease, can’t it? So let’s say you find disease X correlates with disease Y and they both have a genetic component. You might very well want to do genomic testing on both types of tissue - right? These machines might be very handy for that since there might very well be differences in the genomes of the the two tissues, contrary to what used to be accepted dogma.
Since you’re “just curious”, I was addressing the technical question of targeting a specific region of the genome for sequencing since it was asked. But in your reply to my comment you said “The article mentions that the same gene can be expressed differently in different tissues.” and then bolded “they detected significant differences between cells—even between neurons in an individual, healthy brain.” in your linked quote.
Those were differences in the sequence they were talking about, not gene expression.
Congratulations on your advanced degrees and insight, but other people reading the thread may not know what the difference between “gene expression” and “genomic sequencing” is.
If your point was hopefully MIDAS or a related protocol will allow FDA-approved NGS sequencing of single cells in the future, I agree that would be great.
But you had to add “or do you assume everyone who is a layperson is clueless?”, didn’t you?
That seems like a clueless assumption and probably explains this Pit thread: obstinate ignorance + obnoxious cockiness = Deltasigma.
My quote was NOT about expression since it specifically talks about differences in the GENOMES themselves. Even obnoxious little old me understands that means a difference in the DNA itself - not even epigenetic changes would count there since they are NOT changes to the base pairs, but hey, nice try at saving face.
So, your quote about “the same gene can be expressed differently” is NOT about expression?
Or, are you saying that to make a point about gene expression, you cited a NIH web article quote that was NOT about expression?
The MIDAS article does NOT mention that genes are expressed differently, which is what you said it did, but that different cells can have different genomes.
I’m pretty sure that anyone reading this thread would probably not think I’m the one trying to save face.
That was a poor choice of words in post 11 - I admit that. But would have thought it subsequently became clear what I meant and despite my improper use of the word ‘expression’ there you would have eventually realized from the context that what I meant was that the actual genomes of different cells were different - you know, since that’s what I kept saying.
I’m not sure why you decided to keep focusing on my original error rather than trying to adapt, but you know what, I don’t especially care .
edit: I’d also point out that the article I cited wasn’t talking about expression so maybe that could have been a clue for you too rather simply assuming that I was a moron, but I guess that was just an expression of your obvious bias huh?
Firstly, there is a legitimate point in sequencing the CFTR gene. There have been hundreds of documented mutations in the CFTR gene, each of which is enough to contribute toward cystic fibrosis. However, most of these mutations have only ever been seen in a single individual. Most tests these days look for the one or two dozen most common mutations, which covers something like 95% of cases (number pulled out of my rear). However, sequencing allows you to eliminate the possibility of a rare mutation with absolute certainty.
Secondly, gene expression is certainly a very different test from genomic sequencing. Genomic information looks at the sequence of the cells’ DNA. Gene expression testing measures relative levels of specific mRNAs. Extracting RNA from a sample and counting it is a very different process from extracting DNA and reading it. Expression testing lets you see, for instance, that sample X has twice as many CFTR mRNAs per cell than sample Y. That’s informative for some diseases, like cancer, but not really for something like CF.
Edit: You could, also, look at DNA samples for epigenetic marks, which would tell you something about how that gene is being expressed, but I don’t think our understanding of those systems are good enough for this to really tell us anything clinically important at this point.
Whatever. Is your next act going to be telling a statistician what the word “significant” means?