In this thread I was looking for info on a painting called “Head of Christ” by Sallman. We have it up in the entrance to my church and it really irks me that Jesus is depicted as a white guy with blue eyes.
None of the pics of the image online have sufficient resolution to identify the eyes as blue. But I have seen the painting hundreds of times, and the eyes are blue.
However **Fear Itself ** continues to assert that I am either wrong about the color of the eys or that the painting I see weekly in my church is an altered version. This is a concept made up out of whole cloth simply to discredit the fact that the eyes in the painting are blue. She says she is keeping an open mind about the color, even though I have linked to several articles debating the effect of having a blue eyed Jesus be the most popular painted image in America of what he looked like.
I guess I am taking it personally that she cannot just take my word for the eye color. What reason does she have to doubt me? Does she think I cannot tell colors? Does she have a reason to think I would fabricate the blue eyes?
I know this is uber-weak. However if we are fighting ignorance here, I was suprised to see a long time poster clinging to tenaciously to it…
But if the resolution is poor on online images, and I have seen the painting many times, taking special notive of the eyes…I thought that should be good enough to accept the eyes as blue instead f twisting and machinating in order not to concede this as fact.
I mean I am not a 10k+ poster, but I am no newbie.
I simply disagreed with you, news. The eyes look brown to me. I offered a possible explanation for the difference of opinion by suggesting some prints may have been altered. It was just an idea, nothing more.
And I linked to one commentary that agreed the eyes look brown.
Ask these guys. They can just go up to the original and look!
I’ve usually seen prints of it with blue eyes, but I have run into various different colorations. Even the hair and skin tone changes a bit in some prints I’ve seen.
I can’t believe that this is such a big deal that you made two threads about it. And you’re being disigenuous. You said you were going to start a thread in IMHO about WHY it bothers you that He was given blue eyes, but instead you used it as an excuse to call out Fear Itself again! There’s nothing in this thread that couldn’t be in the other.
And, as a Christian, seeing someone worry this much over what Jesus may have looked like according to ONE artist is…kind of troubling. Is this all you’re thinking about at church is how this artist set out to insult you?
I believe she was complaining that you used the IMHO thread to call out Fear Itself, and didn’t use it to explain about your dislike of blue-eyed blond-haired Jesus.
That’s right I do! both of them. This second thread was supposed to explain what the fuck is the big deal about the blue eyed jesus that bothers newscrasher so much. instead it was just another “why doesn’t Fear Itself admit “she’s” wrong?”, thus having it moved right to the pit again.
Well, this is anti-climactic. After posting here for almost six years, I have never been pitted. I was hoping my first pitting would entail some much deserved invective, fueled by righteous indignation at the hands of someone whose very presence in a thread would make me sweat bullets.
Instead, not only does my first pitting sneak in through the back door from IMHO, it is for something as utterly inconsequential as a disagreement about eye color, from someone who has been haunted by a painting at his church. I am mortified.
Czarcasm, when did this fart-in-a-whirlwind tip over into Pit territory? The OP admitted it was “uber-weak”, an overstatement by any standard; he practically pits himself for being “overly sensitive”. If he had posted it in the Pit to begin with, Giraffe would have booted it to IMHO on general principles. If it is all the same to you, I am going to pretend this embarrassment never happened. I promise, I will be more deserving of a proper pitting in the future.
Fear Itself has a right to his opinion about the original painting just as you do. Only you have seen the painting in your church, newscrasher, and know what is actually there. Still, Fear Itself has the right to offer his opinion of how that painting may have been altered. His opinioned of you, however, is his own business and you should not make inferences from what he has said about the painting.
Isn’t it more important to put into practice the teachings of being a peacemaker? Is being right more important to you?
