Fear the Walking Dead series premiere tonight @ 9 (open spoilers

Everyone who got bit got sick, they had fevers and delirium. Of course there was no flu dialogue because they already knew what was going on, but at the beginning when nobody does it would certainly seem like they had strong flu like symptoms. They do change instantly or nearly so once they die, but the bites take a while to kill.

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They killed the white female junky first. She was the one with the large knife sticking out of her ribs.

Randy Wagstaff from the Wire all grown up!

I enjoyed the episode. It kinda sucks that we viewers already know what’s going on with everyone. Though I’m hoping that shit will hit the fan quickly. I want to see the pandemonium.

I want to see the Principal get whacked, perhaps the boyfriend.

I don’t get why you people think the junkie son looking like Johnny Depp or Keanu Reeves is a liability. If he looked like John C. Reilly or Danny Trejo I wouldn’t be watching this thing at all. I’m shallow and like a little eye candy.

If he looked like Trejo and he wasn’t mowing down zombies with a two-handed machete, I’d write the show off immediately.

I don’t have a clue.
:dubious:

My thoughts and questions.

  1. Did Mom get bit in the arm by bad black drug guy? If so, I guess she dies first. I thought it was clear she was bit, but she wasn’t bleeding big time at the end.

  2. I thought Tom Riddle* did fairly well with a badly written role. I think he’ll likely be less whiny and freaking out as the series goes. I’m guessing he’ll drop the drug habit and get clearer.

  3. I thought it was unclear how far along the zombie invasion is. I don’t even get how it couldn’t progress super quickly. Each zombie could make 2-3 zombies(at least) and the whole world would be wiped out in a few days or so.

Anyway, I thought it was fine. Nowhere in the league of the original show, but I think it will be fun to watch the world dissolve into total madness.

*He was Voldemort in the 6th Harry Potter movie.

Cleaner?
Like he mainlines heroin only on Tuesday and Thursday?
:slight_smile:

Did someone say cleaner?

That step dad looked like John Tuturro

Declan

I didn’t get a Johnny Depp/Keanu Reeves vibe from the kid, he reminded me more of James Franco.

I’m older so a Danny Trejo look-alike would have piqued my interest. “Nick” is cute but too young… way too young… for me to to be interested in (my oldest is older than him). But… making a lifetime of bad decisions or even just one really bad decision is a hook for me.

I hope in EP2 or EP 3 a real Bad Ass with decent enough looks shows up.

The bi-racial coupling got me a “meh” because I married a white guy and that shouldn’t be a plot point.

Having a straight-laced looking/acting guy be the drug dealer did raise my eyebrow ala Spock. The diner scene sucked me in.

I was waiting and waiting during each Nick hospital scene for the old guy to die and “turn”. That scene let me down.

It was a very slow pilot. With as many fans as TWD has I don’t know why they strung it out. Throw in only 6 episodes for the first season and I am not a happy camper.

I like apocalyptic shows: they remind me how good I actually have it.

OK, I’m watching the stream on AMC’s website and my biggest problem with the show is that there’s a shot of a gas station displaying the price of $2.35/gallon! And this is L.A., where gas is generally much more expensive than the national average. What the hell, is this supposed to take place in the 1960s?

Also another problem I have with zombie outbreaks generally is it just seems like the small number of initial infected would be trivial to contain long, long before they completely overrun the world population (save for the small groups of survivors that the audience follows). Why didn’t they go inside the chapel after they arrested the guy in the beginning? They would have found them immediately and been able to deal with it rather easily.

He tried to bite her, but she definitely was not bit. Not only not bleeding but she was wearing a thick long-sleeved coat, that clearly was not torn at all in a subsequent shot when they run up to take a look at him.

Amy didn’t have the flu, no. But that one dude toward the end got the flu from being bit. They loaded him into the bus and we saw him get sicker and weaker as they drove to the CDC. Eventually he asked to be left on the side of the road so he could wouldn’t be a danger to anyone.

As for the rules about how long it takes to turns after you die, let’s just say that I take your memory of the early seasons with a grain of salt.

Well, part of the problem is that we expect dead people to stay put, not get up, shamble around, and eat people. So, initially, the dead wouldn’t be guarded or shot in the brain and would get loose. This is made even worse in TWD world because there is no cultural knowledge of zombies so no one will know what the hell is going on. You go to transport the stiff in room 306 and gramps is missing your first thought is “who took the guy” or “someone else is moving him to the morgue”, not that he got up and walked away. Someone is growling and biting people you assume “delusional”, not “undead”.

Once people figure out what’s going on, yeah, you’d expect them to try to contain the zombies.

A twist in TWD universe is that you don’t need to get bitten - everyone who dies with an intact brain gets up and walks again. Containing the obvious zombies might slow the outbreak, but people will keep dying for other reasons and produce more walkers.

I get the impression that once the zombie curse activated, it didn’t wait for people to die naturally or get bitten by the ones who did. It appears to have actively killed a bunch of people, presenting as flu-like symptoms. We know everyone has “it” but it lies dormant until they die. Maybe not everyone gets the “lies dormant” part?

That would help explain how humanity was overrun in five weeks if, say, 10% of the population died in the first few days.

EDIT: Found a crappy youtube clip of that guy in the first season who had flu-like symptoms. The clip doesn’t show his flu-y scenes on the bus, but it does show him being left on the side of the road as they go to the CDC.

Well yeah, but people would figure it out pretty fast and the speed of global communication is a hell of a lot faster these days than the speed of zombies. While the TWD twist does make a fast spread slightly more plausible, I still have trouble seeing it getting completely out of control with the living actively and aggressively attempting to actually control it.

I was curious so I Googled and according to the WHO, there’s about 56 million deaths per year globally, which amounts to only about ~150,000 deaths per day in the entire world under normal circumstances due to natural causes/accidents/homicides.

Granted, the initial unexpected nature of it and the ensuing panic would cause a lot of deaths via bite at first. But we’ve got about 7 billion people to churn through, and as soon as the word spread about what’s going on and how to deal with it, the 7 billion living would be able to handle the newly dead even if the numbers shot up to 10x the normal amount of death - that’s 7 billion living vs. 1.5 million walkers. Hell, even at 100x the normal death rate I still think 7 billion could handle a measly ~15 million new walkers a day without it completely destroying all civilization*.

ETA: *At least in the TWD world, where walkers are very slow and very frail. If they had any real strength or speed it might be another story.