PCP, and Nick even asked his dealer if he laced the heroin with PCP.
But just in case. 
Please note that the cannibal guy was reported to be on “bath salts” a wink wink marketing term for research chemical stimulants. But in fact when toxicology came back he had nothing in his system but marijuana.
You’ve misunderstood my posts on this topic: I wasn’t objecting to the use of a virus as the plot development that explains the zombie-ism; I was objecting to the way the writers of this show have handled that plot development.
That reason–an infective agent–for having most of humanity turn zombie/vampire/what-have-you, is pretty much the default, in recent years: we see it in 2002’s 28 Days Later, 2007’s I Am Legend, and of course 2009’s book version of The Strain, later made into a television show. It was advanced as “the reason” for the original modern treatment of zombies–George Romero’s 1968 Night of the Living Dead–in the 1985 Return of the Living Dead, based on a book by Romero’s Night co-writer John Russo.
So the idea has been around for a while, and can make for a very exciting and well-thought-out treatment of the general apocalyptic theme. Or it can make for slap-dash schlock. It’s all in the quality of the writing.
The only way the FAST collapse of society in TWD franchise makes sense is something causes a lot of death simultaneously everywhere say like 10% of the population being killed off in a short time frame. Society could still collapse in a scenario where only the dead rise but it would take a lot longer.
If you’ve never lived through a situation where the power goes down for a week, shit collapses fast as battery backups last 24-48 hours.
No, I am not talking out of my ass. I worked at a methodone clinic for four years back in the 1990’s and saw literally thousands of addicts.
You, personally, know a couple of deceased addicts? I used to process the paperwork on deceased addicts who attended our clinic. I’ve seen the reports on literally hundreds of dead addicts. The only ones that died in heroin withdrawal (or any other opiate) were those with, as I said, other major health problems in addition to their addiction.
So… they weren’t your friends, just acquaintances? How do you know they didn’t have some other problem on top of their heroin addictions?
Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Did you actually read EVERYTHING I wrote in that post, or did your brain lock up at some point? Here, I’ll help you - here’s the entirety of my post:
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Are you certain that those deceased addicts you knew (as acquaintances, not close friends) didn’t have some other medical problem?
Are you certain they weren’t addicted to more than one substance? Because dual addictions can and do occur. As noted, quitting alcohol or benzos cold turkey really does put you at high risk.
And sure, if you have a propensity for seizures that could kill you during withdrawal - but seizure are, you know, a medical problem that’s usually considered fairly serious.
Actually, the whole addiction thing is pretty messed up…
I suppose we could page Qadgop the Mercotan - he’s an actual MD with some knowledge of addiction himself. You won’t have to take my word for it then, but the word of an actual doctor.
So… does it say anywhere whether or not Officer Ramirez’s final shot was to the head or not?
Oh, Hell.
:dubious:
Two more questions, and while I have read the thread entirely, it is still possible I missed it.
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My wife thought the idea of people turning once they die(bit or not bit) was later in the apocalypse. The black drug dealer died at the end, unbit, and he came back. Did we know this was an immediate part of the zombie-outbreak?
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I think I asked this already? Wouldn’t a zomibe outbreak take over the earth in less than a week? How many zombies does each one have to make for the earth to be mainly wiped out in a week?
I think it’s an open question. Some people in this thread think everyone is already infected. I’m guessing some people are infected, but not everyone yet. The show hasn’t revealed enough to know for sure.
I didn’t watch the supplemental information during airing, so maybe more was revealed there.
The question of how and why there are so many zombies, as in most of the people in the walking dead Universe, will probably never be answered.
Just like how we will never know how billions of zombies keep walking (using energy) with out eating. For months or years.
Because it’s a TV show/comic book, not a real world.
I don’t think they’re going with the infectious agent angle in the walking dead universe. The CDC guy showed time lapse images of the effect, but that’s not the cause.
For my money, the cause of zombieism is a curse by god. In an instant, every human is imbued with zombieness in their core, such that when they die by anything other than brain trauma they rise again as zombies.
Based on the first episode of FtWD, I additionally think that at the moment of this divine curse, some percentage of the population couldn’t handle their zombieness on a physical level, and immediately began deteriorating with flu-like symptoms. Those people – whose bodies simply can’t handle it – will quickly die, turn, and start eating people, which will give us a very large initial population of zombies. That’s how society gets overrun.
I think it is germs from a meteorite.
I blame some twisted writer somewhere …
The thinking is that what a lot of law enforcement claims to be drug/bath salts/PCP freakouts are really untreated major mental health problems. Someone who’s paranoid, delusional, and manic can be really, really strong and move really quickly. And they can make a hell of a mess.
Keep drinking the kool-aid, man. I’m not behind the desk. I’m living with these people.
Well, that and why they only partly decay. A corpse outdoors in L.A.'s climate (or Georgia’s, for that matter) would be reduced to goo and bones fairly quickly, but for some reason the walkers are immune to this and even to the flies and other scavengers that would normally and quickly converge.
Don’t let the writers see that.
They would think that maggots dropping off of a walker would be cool.
:rolleyes:
It would be cool!
Have you ever considered a career in writing comic books?
It’s an interesting premise, but note that neither the show nor the comics on which they’re based have so much as hinted at any sort of supernatural element in the goings-on.