Newest development–the moms have been joined by dads with leaf blowers who blow the teargas back at the feds. Say what you will, Portland knows how to protest with style.
That is a good idea. Tbh, I wish the agitators would leave Portland alone and go over the White House fence. Tbh, snatching people off the street should be enough to make a million people go over the White House fence.
Not in this case. the only way to stop this is to stop protesting and let the courts handle it.
This isnt antifa, and antifa doesnt have a HQ.
Which is what they wanted. Barr wants more protests.
No the agitators need to peaceful protestors to give them cover. Six black blok anarchists and a infiltrator from Barr would be super obvious and easy to round up then.
The purpose of the black blok anarchists is to create chaos and have fun destroying things. They want more protests.
Sometimes the very best way to handle a bullying asshole is to give them exactly what they want. Because a poor planner thinks things will go just as they’ve imagined and the imagination of a bullying asshole is, generally speaking, nowhere near as comprehensive as they think it is. Allow the Law of Unintended Consequences to play out, I say.
Why does he want more protests?
You seem to be assuming that his end game, his goal, is to harass and harm protesters.
His goal is to silence opposition. His goal is no protests.
He’d like nothing better than for the opposition to silence themselves.
WTF?
Shooting, gassing, and disappearing ANYONE for ANYTHING is NOT APPROPRIATE EVER.
I did, it makes not one bit of difference in my response to your indifference to human rights and law.
So, if some random idiot is shooting up some place and killing people, let’s say with an automatic weapon, you believe it’s not appropriate to shoot them.
In your world view, we should just hope they run out of ammo before they kill too many people?
What happened to “gassing and disappearing”?
Context matters. We’re not talking self-defense here and I refuse to engage with someone nitpicking a life-or-death matter concerning fascists attempting a takeover of this country.
Even an active shooter shouldn’t be disappeared.
In your world view, anyone who breaks laws should just be removed from society, never to be heard from again?
Break the law, hell - apparently he thinks anyone utilizing their constitutionally given right to expression and assembly should be gassed and disappeared.
Obvious which side SCAdian is on… and it’s not ours.
This is overly simplistic and doesn’t reflect what’s actually happening. The protesters aren’t split into peaceful and anarchists.
The number of actual anarchists who are simply trying to create chaos is very small. Most of the people we’re referring to as agitators have the same goals as the peaceful protesters: police reform, combating racism, and now getting federal paramilitary and their gestapo tactics out of Portland. They differ in their approach: they believe that a peaceful protest is too easily ignored and is ultimately ineffective. In their opinion, to get noticed and effect change, you have to get on the news. This means graffiti, taking down a fence, and provoking the police into over-the-top responses.
To them, peaceful protesters get in the way. They aren’t trying to hide their behavior by blending in with the crowd, they are purposely getting out in front of the police.
And when you say the simple solution is to round up the agitators, who are you talking about? If I scream “fuck you, pig!” in a cop’s face, am I an agitator, even though I’m not breaking any laws? Look at the examples I linked about - in all three cases, all of these supposed “agitators” were protesting peacefully. One guy was holding up a boom box. One guy was standing there trying to talk to the brownshirts. One guy was walking back after a protest, and was accused of being suspected of maybe doing something earlier. A bunch of moms were standing with arms locked when they were gassed.
Obviously it’s not quite as easy for the feds to identify the agitators as you think it would be. Or maybe they can identify them just fine, but don’t really care. Which do you think it is?
The post from Broomstick was in response to this post, which appeared to me to be listing independent items as opposed to a collection of actions that all happen together.
If that was not the original intent then my post is invalid because it’s the “disappear” part that I think is that can have the “ever” term applied.
So, RaftPeople - does that mean you think GASSING people is OK? Really? Do you really want to hold to that?
It’s not nitpicking to want a reasonable level of accuracy in communications.
I Completely agree, disappear is the only one of those actions that can have the absolute of “never” applied.
Should we nitpick you for having included it originally, or would it be kind of unproductive to spend time correcting people for things that they obviously didn’t mean?
I don’t believe you could say that tear gas should never be used in any situation ever.