Specifically with respect to the “black-bagging,” is there more than one name out there?
Is Pettibone the guy in black with the helmet in the video that’s the one I’ve seen, or is that someone else? Bystanders in that video are heard asking the guy’s name and apparently got it, but I didn’t hear the name.
I think legit media are not running with this harder because they’re having a hard time verifying the occurrence of the kidnap-style detainings.
Are you serious? Because when I see cities burning, people looting, vandals running wild, innocent people shot by ‘peaceful’ protesters, armed intimidation by mobs, then that actually is anarchy is it not? How would you characterize the violence and mayhem? And what’s with the personal insult?
Hyperbole.
It’s not hyperbole stating the truth. You also wouldn’t think it was hyperbole if it were your business being burned or looted, your young child being shot by thugs, your body being assaulted. When it’s happening to someone else or their business than it’s social justice and peaceful protesting. It’s funny how CHAZ/CHOP ceased being tolerated when the useless mayor of Seattle was protested at her house.
You know what I saw? Looting with no police anywhere nearby. You know where the police were? Dressed for battle and watching a bunch of protestors stand around holding signs.
Great use of resources. 
I’ve been trying to find this out but hadn’t come up with anything as of this morning.
Seriously, man. This is the kind of stuff I saw in asylum testimony about the Central American civil wars of the 1980s - 1990s.
Also, if people are going to whine about outdoor protests as a COVID infection vector, without exception nationwide, I have seen a lot more protestors than cops wearing masks.
I don’t accept this is any more than a tiny fraction of what’s going on, but even if it’s so, why are they going after the totally peaceful protesters like in Lafayette Square? And why are you supporting brutality against peaceful protesters?
You sure as shit ain’t seeing it HERE IN PORTLAND OREGON, which is what we’re talking about. So far the vast majority of the violence, mayhem, armed intimidation, shooting and a goodly portion of the “vandalism” has been done by the cops. Get this–we have the right to peaceful assembly uninterrupted by cops with tear gas, LRADs, beanbag shotguns and nightsticks. Even if there IS some tagging–because I can assure you there’s tagging going on all over this town all the goddamned time and the cops pay ZERO attention to that. You’re getting personal insults because you, personally, are insulting our intelligence with your JAQing off.
Please. You folks think lawlessness is justified to advance your political ideology. Now you complain about it. That’s called hypocrisy.
Protesting is legal. And you seem to think that lawlessness to advance your political ideology is justified. There.s nothing in the Constitution that allows police brutality.
Is it you position that the overwhelming majority of protests are in fact not peaceful or well within the laws afforded by the constitution? Is it further your position that all violent and aggressive actions against protesters by LEO, including those specifically being addressed by the OP are warranted and justifiable in nature?
I have no problem with that. But.
US territorial waters extend out to 12 miles from the coast. The contiguous zone, wherein 'a state can exert limited control for the purpose of preventing or punishing “infringement of its customs, fiscal, immigration or sanitary laws and regulations within its territory or territorial sea” (Wiki), extends another 12 miles out. So I think CBP should only have jurisdiction within 76 miles of the coast. They don’t get 100 miles in from the Canadian border plus 24 miles into Canada, after all.
I don’t know if you’re aware of this, but your posts on this topic have adopted a more and more hysterical tone in the past few days. From what specific news sources are you getting this notion that the country has descended into anarchy? I follow really quite a lot of print and televised news, and I’m not getting this anywhere.
You’re not squinting hard enough nor are you using the correct lens.
Not quite over-the-top enough. Have you considered going “all caps” and/or using random colors to make it more believable?
Since this thread is about PORTLAND, let’s stick to that. Businesses are not being burned, and in fact, many business owners side with the protestors:
Portland Business Owners Ask Mayor Ted Wheeler to Defund the Police
“The Portland Independent Restaurant Alliance is circulating a petition written by Portland business owners, calling for a significant cut to the Portland police budget.”
Hoist on your own petard, me thinks.
I will give you time to look that up and find someone to explain it to you. You really are quite amusing.
Yeah but some idiots sent fireworks into the Federal Courthouse. Now, tagging is a minor misdemeanor if that. But that is arson, a serious felony, and the excuse Barr & trump needed to send in the brownshirts.
Sorry, but around here that’s pure bullshit. For a week previous to the 4th and almost two weeks after we’ve had THOUSANDS of 100% illegal fireworks being set off all over the city, and yes they do start fires and somehow THAT’S not worth the cops even taking a complaint, let alone actually showing up–somehow if a rando neighbor sets my shed on fire it’s no big deal and the cops say I should hose it down and maybe call the fire department but if someone fires one into a building they say it’s arson and THAT is a big deal? Yeah, not buying it. Either it’s always serious and always arson or it never is, you don’t get to pick and choose which is important. Because I can tell you right now that my shed is WAY more important to me than the entire fucking fed courthouse but if my opinion isn’t what matters then neither is some random cop’s opinion. Matter of fact, they got way more stroppy when people started demonstrating outside their union clubhouse than they ever were over someone else’s business.
So if setting off illegal fireworks is arson according to them then how come none of my neighbors went to jail? Complaints were made but there was zero followup, let along kidnapping and terror tactics. A little consistency is needed here because one of the biggest drivers of our protests is that there is blatantly one set of laws for the cops and a completely different set for the rest of us and yeah, we have a problem with that. Either everyone obeys laws or nobody has to and they need to get that shit straight.