Feeding your kid with hand is a crime in Norway?!

I’m no expert, granted, not being a medical professional or a parent, but I find it hard to believe that a parent would not notice rolling onto a baby or small child unless alcohol or drugs are involved. I notice when some part of my body makes any contact with a smallish cat, who’s a lot smaller than a healthy baby (and have always had that ability). I even notice bumping into the cat if I did take an OTC sleep aid befoer bed.

Rats, meant “before”. I really can spell, just didn’t proof that post carefully enough. Sorry. :frowning:

In Indian families, there are a lot of obstacles to a married couple having sex with much frequency.

Doesn’t seem to have hindered the production of more Indians.

Yes, in this case, the goverment should seriously butt out. The behavior is customary and clearly works just as well as other upbringings. Perhaps, in their fear of the wrong kind of touch, Norway has forgotten that children need touch very much.

nvm

Now this makes sense. Sorry I didn’t read the whole thread before posting. That’ll teach me. :frowning:

Two thumbs up!

If you’d instead rather work in the U.S., PM me.

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Quite possible. I don’t know about the UK (which is where the article was published), but here in the US, the term “orphanage” is very culturally loaded with Victorian imagery, much of it not terribly pleasant. We still have them, but we avoid using the term and prefer calling them “group homes” or somesuch in order to avoid comparing them directly with Dickensian institutions.

It doesn’t take much frequency to accomplish that.

Yes, being compared to halfway houses must be a much more favourable comparison. lol.

Mother given custody of the kids after mental health evaluation. It became a nasty custody battle.

Indian government has so far refused to intervene in second case.

She’s claiming to have been beaten by her husband and tortured by Norwegian goons. I think this, plus the previous article, pretty much puts paid to any notion that CPS was just dealing with a normal Indian family that happened to use their hands while eating. Lordy.

Could you expand on this point?

The Norway incident caused them to file for divorce, and the both set of families wanted custody of grandkids.

In Indian divorce cases, husband accuses wife and wife accuses husband of many things for a quick divorce. In this case the custody of grandkids became a prestigious issue after all the negative publicity.

I read through a lot of reports in Indian media on this issue and both sides were trying to impress authorities as to otherwise was the cruel one for custody of kids. In India courts tend to give custody to mother, except in rare circumstances.

I am not saying there was no neglect, but the mother just cleared a mental health evaluation.

Now, what constitutes parental abuse in Norway is not necessarily parental abuse in India.

Just off the top of my head, I thought of these. There are probably more.

  1. Architectural factors —

Indian houses are generally open-plan houses with numerous windows and multiple doors, which are kept open to encourage ventilation and cooling. Very commonly, there are rooms that can be accessed only by going through other rooms. So, architecturally, it’s difficult to get privacy.

  1. Social/cultural factors —

— a. Traditionally, Indian households include multiple generations, and large houses might also include distant relatives or even people who are not related by blood. It is considered rude to close a door against a member of the household, and it is considered extremely disrespectful to close a door in the face of someone who is an elder. Thus, many members of the household have free access to most of the rooms, making it difficult for a couple to get privacy.

— b. Large households are likely to have servants going about their tasks throughout the day — rooms are often swept from floor to ceiling twice daily by sweepers.

— c. Sleeping arrangements are often fluid and what Westerners would consider unconventional. Except for newlyweds, it’s often not the case that a married couple gets to have its own bedroom to itself all night. It’s quite common for children to sleep with parents or grandparents, until they hit puberty, at least. Traditionally, it is common for a large family to have guests staying on short notice and even for open-ended stays. If there are guests in the house, sleeping arrangements are often shuffled, in order to give the guests the best bedrooms, or if there are a lot of people in the house, the bedrooms might be divided up between men and women/small children.

  1. Religious factors —

For strict Hindus, there are a lot of days during which sexual intercourse is forbidden, such as several days before and after a woman’s menses, on auspicious days, on inauspicious days, etc. If you follow all the rules, the sex permitted days can add up to only a handful over the course of a year. Honestly, I don’t know whether there are many people that follow such rules.

Footnotes:

  1. Obviously, you can close the door when you’re using the bathroom or changing clothes. Often, bathrooms are large enough to do your changing in.

  2. There are a lot of superstitions regarding women’s menses. For example, a woman having her period is not allowed near the household shrine, or the kitchen (often the household shrine is in or adjacent to the kitchen). Of course, just because the lady of the house is not allowed in the kitchen doesn’t mean she’s relieved of all of her meal preparation duties. Those are performed outside the kitchen, often on a back porch that the kitchen exits onto. If a man says “the kitchen is outdoors,” he’s basically saying that his wife is having her period.

In fact a typical Daily Mail story! :rolleyes:

She was in the papers here in Denmark the other day, pushing a semi-autobiographical novel. She went on and on about how much she enjoyed the media attention that followed her arrest back in the day. Came off sounding like a grade-A cunt all around.