Not denying that the world economic system actively subjugates many nations, and that this is inherently unfair (although I question whether this may be inevitable under rampant capitalism), you are assuming that because I am white, I am one of the controllers of the 90% wealth. The actual number of people who control the vast bulk of the 90% is but a very small number of individuals/corporations, and unfortunately, it doesn’t include ME. Along with an increasing proportion of the population, I own NO assets: despite my whiteness, I am not one of the 90%.
Now, if you want to rail against the structural inequities that create and perpetuate poverty while advantaging the select few (both national and global), then go ahead…you’ll get no argument from me (although you might from Libertarian and others…but it’d be an interesting argument all the same).
However, the minute you make it personal, and assume that anybody who opposes your views is a raging racist of the ruling-class and out to destroy YOU, you’ve lost the plot.
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Apparently not. After all, there’s that whole conviction thing.
[qutoe]I don’t subscribe to the obsequious laws that so many minorities are forced into following for the benefit of whites.
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I suspect you’re talking about the laws that both Whites and non-Whites are supposed to follow for the benefit of society.
Show trials? Hah! If they’re show trials, then the conviction rate would be 100% for the minorities and 0% for the Whites.
Well, criminals are members of this society.
Apparently not. After all, there’s that whole conviction thing for the aggravated assault as opposed to a finding of innocent by reason of self-defense.
[qutoe]Criminal by whose definition?
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Dictionary definition.
I said nothing about the war in Vietnam. Since you bring it up, there are many Vietnamese in the former RVN who wanted the US to stay. That’s because they’re not all that impressed with the oppression from those Asian communists in charge right now.
Actually, it’s not.
And you were proven wrong because you weren’t defending yourself. You were assaulting someone. And since it was aggravated assault, I suspect that there was some other crime of yours involved.
Well, you got a light sentence so maybe the impartiality of those laws is in your favour and thus you should hie back to the court and tell the judge that not only do you not respect the law, but you really should be locked up. You know, to make it all impartial.
Interestingly enough, you weren’t a witness to what happened so your belief about it has exactly 0% relevance.
Or they just intended to assualt him (you should be familiar with the term) but didn’t intend for him to die.
I’ll defer to China Guy to clue you in on certain attitudes on the mainland. I can tell you what the attitude in Japan and Korea is to mixed race (to include Chinese-Korean, Chinese-Japanese, Korean-Japanese, etc.). Not generally friendly. One could even use the term racist.
This thread gets my vote for the most fucked-up train wreck I have ever read, all-time, all-time. And I read every stinking post too. Fiesty-san makes Farrakhan and the rest of the race-baiters look like rank amateurs.
Yeah, makes Trent Lott look like a rank amateur too. But wait, wasn’t that Lott mother fucker the head of the Senate or something? Nah, couldn’t be, couldt it?
“With many similarities to the West, Japanese imperialism differed from Western imperialism in that it was the first non-Western imperial power, ** and that it rose to imperial status after facing colonization by the West** Like Western powers, Japanese expansion was fueled with Social Darwinism, and racism”
“Need to ruthlessly protect itself, ** which could mean siding with the Western powers and act as they did to the other Asian countries.** (c.f. Fukuzawa Ukichi, in McClain, 293-4)”
“Imperial expansion the last chance to win Western respect and ensure security and survival as a nation, and even bring civilization to other countries in Asia.”
“Imperial expansion went hand in hand with growing Japanese nationalism”
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Manchu weren’t a different “race” of people and they didn’t seek total annhilation of the people from the territories they conquered. The Japanese imperialist period was already explained above.
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Once again you’re creating a big strawman argument that only you can defeat. I never said that whites were the only ones to practice racism or ethnic bigotry. However whites have been the only ones to practice it extensivelly in a global fashion to the point where it has effected the entire world’s population in a harmful fashion.
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Once again you play the comparison game.
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You’re creating a double standard. What about all the British troops and civillians who died during the American revolution? Was that “genocide” too? Pol Pot was a maniac for sure but it was still a failed revolutionary attempt. It wasn’t an ethnic or racial based slaughter.
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I don’t see what Ho Chi Minh has to do with anything in fact I view him somewhat as a hero since he was kicking the western colonialists out of his country. I suppose you view him as the enemy though being that it seems you’re perfectly in support of colonization and aggression as long as it’s pro-western. This is the double standard i’m talking about, only white waged war is morally correct and legitimate in your viewpoint and it shows.
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Ethnic conflicts that were caused by redrawing the boundaries of Africa before the white colonialists left. You forget that the europeans who colonized Africa didn’t give a damn about who was grouped with who. It’s like if Asia invaded europe and started redrawing traditional country borders so that germany and france are in the same nation. Don’t you think there would be ethnic conflict for years and years afterwards?
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Right, and I suppose if I go back far enough i’ll have african in me too. Any more factually dicey arguments you want to make?
Not because I don’t think so but counting people that are “mixed” as native american is tricky business. By what criteria is that census taken? Is it going by the 1/8th drop rule for native american?
My favorite part of Feisty’s posts are when he says no one’s REALLY listening to what he has to say and that he doesn’t have to listen to anyone else because they haven’t said anything of any relevance.
Of course, he’ll never admit that because they’re cutting to the heart of the matter and he can’t stand it when people speak out against him.
And, Feistyfuckhead, I really hope you get a chance to answer my question before you get banned. Here it is again, real big so you won’t miss it:
Is this wishful thinking on your part CzechMaster401k, that he be banned? And if so on what basis? Because he pointed out atrocities committed by White people toward people of color and other White people? Because he pointed bias that he’s experienced at the hand of White people? If find this hard to believe, perhaps you should try being a person of color in this country, you’ll be suprised by your experience. But if you’re White you really can’t do that can you? Try to be more empathetic until they perfect the technology.
You must accept that:[list=a]
[li]All whites are racists.[/li][li]Members of the minority are not capable of rascism[/li][li]Whites would do ANYTHING to oppress and (if possible) eliminate minorities.[/li][li]Whites are to be blamed for EVERY genocide in the last 1000 years, even if they were nowhere around.[/li][li]All whites are rich. All members of the minorities are poor.[/li][li]It is ok to break the law when you feel offended IF you are a minority. You don’t need to be actually attacked.[/li][li]All whites carry a “Get out of Jail” pass in their pockets.[/li][li]Whites are to be blamed for all FeistyMongol’s failings, from bad breath to urinary incontinence.[/li][/list=a]
Whatever, I was convicted for “defending” myself as far as that was concerned.
As far as the law goes, there is more leniency and an inherent grace treatment for whites. Look at death penalty and the outrageous number of blacks that are put to death over whites for similar crimes. A black man is much more likely to be put to death for killing a white than a white is for killing a black. The bias is built into the system because the same whites that propagate this racism run the system.
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I call it a “show” trial because the conviction/sentencing is so overwhelming anti-minority. Just look at the prison stats sometime. It’s interesting how blacks make up 10% of the population but make up 40-50% of the prison population nationwide. Many racists will argue that blacks commit “more” crimes. My opinion is the court system is inherently weighted against blacks and hispanics (mostly mexican-american/puerto-rican) to begin with.
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Depends on what your definition of a “member” of this society is and what “privileges” it entails. So many blacks/hispanics are prosecuted as felons and have their voting rights stripped away. In my opinion if your right to effect change in the system is taken away you are no longer truly a member.
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The dictionary isn’t a guide for moral judgments. For instance the side you fight for is called brave and courageous. The enemy is called “criminal” and morally wrong. However the enemy views himself as the other way. It’s all relative to your viewpoint.
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Right. And if there were so many vietnamese unhappy with the RVN why wasn’t there mass defection? Talk about unsubstantiated claims…
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I don’t respect this country’s justice system or its rulings. It’s flawed and there’s an inherent bias. Like I said before I did what I thought was morally right at the moment and that’s all that matters.
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Actually I got a light sentence because I had a good competent lawyer. I don’t need to tell the judge anything as far as i’m concerned it’s over and done with.
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Interesting how you sought to inject doubt in who was the instigator in the Vincent chin case yet you turn 180 degrees now and claim that I have no right to express what I think because I wasn’t there. Gee, so I guess YOU were there then?
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They barely even got a sentence for what they did. I’ve heard of people with petty crime convictions who have gotten heavier sentences. It was a show trial with a slap in vincent chin’s parents face because of malfeasence within the court system. They beat him to death with bats or 2x4 I don’t remember which but when two guys are hauling off beating someone with big sticks I think they know damn well what they are trying to do.
Never said this. I said it’s possible that the majority may not be “racist” but complacent to race issues. Same way with nazi germany a good 10-20% were probably the active racist instigators and the others just stood by and watched it all occur without saying or doing anything.
Correct. Minorities in the U.S. are not capable of racism, perhaps bigotry and certainly prejudice. Racism requires the ability to oppress. Minorities do not have that power in American white society.
Judging by history I think there was an overwhelming number of white nations who used “race superiority” as a component to their conquests.
I never said or implied this at all. I already pointed out which conflicts I thought whites were directly responsible for.
Never said this either. I said the majority of the world’s wealth/resources is concentrated in white hands. This is not the same as saying each every individual white owns an exact same share of power.
How do you know I wasn’t attacked? i never even delved into the details. Of course you’ll make automatic assumptions.
Look at the number of whites who get the death penalty compared to minorities. Look at the conviction and sentences for similar crimes. Both are weighted heavily in favor of whites.
2nd racist I’ve heard make this asinine comment in less than one month. FWIW, there have been a number of people who have defected, and at great risk, from Vietnam since the fall of the South. A good number of those who managed to defect also went through sheer hell, the likes of which you only pretend you are subjected to, on their way to freedom.
The ones who “defected” were most likely south vietnamese officers who worked in cohorts with the U.S. military in creating a puppet regime. A puppet regime that eventually fell to the more determined nationalist RVN who wanted to kick the foreigners out of their country. I’d say getting caught and executed as a traitor is a good reason for a few of them to defect. However you have produced no statistics or factual sources to uphold your insinuation that massive numbers of RVN defected because of “asian” oppressors. Or however you originally put it…
With that last comment from you about the boat people from Vietnam, you have certainly crossed the line from just plain jerk to outrageous moronic jerk.
