Some of the kids damn well did something wrong like posing for a picture as if they were on the crew team or allowing someone to take the SAT for them. I’d investigate if they actually did their coursework if possible.
This is funny. A quote from Macy from several months ago complaining about how stressful it was when his daughter was applying for colleges.
Not a word from the celebs today. They are definitely huddled with their rep from one of the best PR firms and a lawyer or two figuring out how to spin this.
The kids most definitely did something wrong. A number of them knew their test scores were faked, because they sat right there and watched somebody else fill in the right answers.
Kick them out, void their degrees, fine them millions - kids and parents alike. Then jail every coach/administrator/whatever for 20 years minimum. Scorched earth. Let Macy, Huffman and the rest of the parents enjoy prison food while their entire lives are confiscated. No prisoners, no quarter.
I think your impression of these various schools is out of date. UCLA is a top 20 school, ranked higher than USC in the linked list: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities
All of those schools listed earlier in this thread are elite and very difficult to get into.
Manda JO, damn I thought of that same vid too when I read about Loughlin’s daughter and her wanting the party experience rather than actual schooling.
I like the clever part of bribing coaches to declare the kids to be “athletes”, which only confirms the already extant perception that the schools will admit whoever Coach says admit, regardless of objective qualifications. Though it suggests that the coaches have some sort of margin of people they can admit on say-so without consideration for whether the “student”-athlete will bring success to the team… I mean, if were a coach would I recruit totally useless posers, or someone who may not be able to tell the multiplication table from the coffee table but who with a year’s training may destroy the opposition in the field/court? Style points for the staged/'shopped photos of the teens being athletic.
Compared to that paying someone to take the SAT for your teenager looks just so pedestrian.
Loughlin’s daughter not only was there just to party, she *monetized *her experience – on move-in week she did Sponsored Instagram shares advertising how she furnished her dorm room through Amazon Prime. So at least she’s got that much business sense.
I’m sure Macy is just as guilty as his wife but lucky for him he seems to have not left as much of a paper trail. The FBI likes ironclad cases.
Right there is a reason to go after the kids. She shouldn’t be allowed to profit from her crime.
I think you are confusing your specific knowledge with public perception. I have already startedthis thread so this one doesn’t get derailed.
The indictment had this exchange from a recorded phone call:
Parent: “And is there any risk that this thing blows up in my face?”
Cooperating Witness 1: “Hasn’t in 24 years.”
In other words, this scheme has been going on since 1995.
Interestingly, one of the ways that this scam was sold to the parents was that it would actually be cheaper than the traditional “donate to the school and your child will get in” method. The perpetrator described it as a third method (after actually being qualified and making a donation) that was both less expensive and guaranteed to work.
Lock them up! Lock them up! Lock them up!
While I posted on your new thread, based on when my younger daughter was applying to UCs, Berkeley and UCLA were definitely the top two. I’m surprised UCSD was on the list. Good school, but not all that prestigious.
I don’t know much about the USC undergrad program, but there is a Computer Engineering Masters program for money which shovels the students in and ejects them a while later with almost identical resumes and absolutely identical course work. I had to wade through about 100 of the damn things each year.
I expanded on this in post #33.
Is this true? Given that in-state students pay less tuition, I think the schools would favor those from out of state.
Generally speaking, there’s conflicting pressure. State legislatures (that set the funding) apply pressure on the schools to accept in-state (since that’s the point of having a state university, and it’s what their constituents want). However, as states cut funding, they have less leverage.
Generally speaking, the % in state/out of state is a political question as much as a financial one. And it’s more complicated because even if they take 75% in-state, in-state may represent 90% of applications. So it can be harder to get in as an in-state student even though they make up a much larger percentage of the student body. But for the big flagships, it tends to go the other way–they get a LOT of out of state applications, and it can be a bloodbath. I think UT and Georgia Tech were both well under 10% for out of state this year.
As a parent of a college student who worked hard to get there and get scholarship money and that I am paying to close the gap to minimize her long term debt, and a college bound high-school junior that is also working hard to do well for his future, this makes me VERY FUCKING ANGRY! Fuck these families - they are assholes and terrible human beings! :mad:
Now, if the kid was unawares of mommy and daddy pulling strings and greasing palms behind the scenes to get their “pwecious wittew snowfwake” into the college of their choice, that is one thing. But, if you are taking the SAT by yourself and there is someone there looking over your shoulder and making corrections, you have to know that is not normal. Fuck you!! :mad:
OK, so this is all not very surprising that the rich use their power and influence to purchase a pedigree college tag for their offspring. The news is that they are getting caught and humiliated, which is good, but I am sure this poor behavior will continue and all this will be forgotten by the next news cycle or two. :rolleyes:
Wait a minute, you know a mentally retarded girl who has a masters degree and was also popular, who may or not have been a lesbian and also a high school art teacher, wow that’s some accomplished tard right!
Yeah, but that TruCoat…
Loughlin’s daughter, who has something like 2 million followers on Instagram, has said she’d much rather make beauty tutorials than go to classes. Considering her SAT score, it seems obvious she wasn’t college material in the first place, and with the fallout from the bribery scheme, she’ll probably end up dropping out soon anyway. None of this will hurt her popularity. She’ll probably go on to “create” (actually just sign her name to) a line of cosmetics and maybe a fashion line.
In a Christian Broadcasting Network interview 5 or 6 years ago, Laurie Loughlin said
Bitter irony.