I don’t see how this, as a blanket term for both transmen and transwomen, can be objectionable, except of course when it is obviously used as a term of disparagement. Of course certain other terms can be objectionable because they have a long history of use as a disparaging term (cf. “tranny”) but I don’t see this here.
I have nothing wrong with transgenderism, or transgender people in particular. I do, however, have a problem with those who claim that it is a “civil right” for transgender people to use whatever bathroom they want because of Title IX–which is a blatant misreading of the statute. It’s quite clear from the words of the statute that it was meant only to apply to discrimination from the basis of one’s biological sex, not their “gender identity.” It’s political correctness run amok.
It’s not about religious discrimination; Trump said that during the campaign that he would have no problem with Caitlyn Jenner using his bathroom at Trump Tower, but still supported North Carolina’s bathroom bill, because, as he said in a 2016 Hannity interview, “I think that local communities and states should make the decision. And I feel very strongly about that. The federal government should not be involved.” (-Trump, in an interview with Sean Hannity, April 2016
Trump believed it should be turned back to the states for them to make their own decision about it, which is perfectly reasonable.
The fact of the matter is that a man who undergoes sex reassignment surgery to become a woman may be a transgender woman, yes, but they are still a biological man–that’s what the science says. You don’t become a biological woman by mutilating your genitals and taking hormones and wearing female dresses–you’re a transgender woman, but a biological man.
Trump never said it was not “okay” in North Carolina, he just said that the elected representatives over there should be the ones calling the shots, not the federal government. In other words, he believed that it should be voluntary for a state to allow a transgender individual to use a bathroom that comports with their “gender identity”, not mandatory, as it’s not really a civil right.
If the issue or trans-gender rights is an issue of human rights (which it is), why should the states have the right to over-rule federal laws. Couldn’t the same argument be made about racial discrimination - leaving it up to states as to what access minorities can have to public facilities?
So ‘equal protection under the law’ for ‘any person’ doesn’t apply to transgender people? Does that not imply that transgender people are not ‘persons’? Or maybe they only count as 3/5 of a person?
Do you think this and this are what Conservatives want?
“trans-gender rights” is not a human right. A person who was born a man is a biological man, no matter whether they mutilate their genitals, take hormones, and wear female attire. A person who was born a woman is a biological woman will always be a biological woman, no matter what surgery they get to obtain an artificial penis, whether they start taking hormones, etc.
Facts are facts. It’s not a human right, it never has been, and there is no law in Congress or ruling by the Supreme Court saying that it is. In fact, a respected U.S. District Court Judge Robert Doumar specifically ruled in 2015 in favor of a school that doesn’t have a transgender policy, because there’s no precedent for it.
Racial discrimination, on the other hand, is a clear violation of blacks’ human and civil rights; that is why “no coloreds” fountain, “whites-only” bar stools, etc. are unconstitutional.
Also, we conservatives have only said that it should be up to states’ elected officials to adopt policies regarding this issue. If a state were to adopt a policy by the lawmakers allow people to use their “gender identity” when seeking a bathroom, we’d have no problem with it, iit’s a perfect example of allowing the states to do what they want to do.
I contend that it is and that all humans should be offered equal protection under the law, regardless of gender, race or sexual identity.
That is not the last word on the subject. Far from it.
But there was a time, not so long ago, when some states had a different view of it.
If conservatives of your stripe would have no problem with it in states where trans-gender rights were recognized, why are you punting it to individual states to decide? You either support the tenet of trans-gender rights, or you do not. Either it’s a moral or immoral to discriminate against a class of people based on their gender identity. Why is morality subject to change when it crosses state lines?
No one’s discriminating against transgenders. We don’t have a beef with transgenders. Not at all. We just don’t consider it discrimination for transgenders to have to use the bathroom of their biological sex. They can always use the bathroom they want at their home, at workplaces that allow it and so on
I did. Page 2. Minus a couple issues (Obamacare, for one) I agree with what he’s done so far and continue to believe my vote for him was the right one.
Yes sir. Right away sir.
In case you missed it, I was responding to the irony of this comment, from this very thread…
“It must have been traumatic for you to realize that other people don’t have the same opinions as you.”
Uh huh. I can’t handle opinions that differ from my own.
“We’re not discriminating against black people. They can use the black water fountain, and certainly get whatever water they want at home”
You are asking a person who identifies as a woman, looks like a woman, and has woman parts to use a men’s bathroom, because her cells have a “y” chromosome in them that you can’t see without a powerful microscope. This is foolish. It is nonsensical. It only exists because of pure ignorance of what a transgendered person is.
That “woman” is still a biological man according to all the biological and scientific facts and evidence in question, and should not have special privileges just because he underwent sex reassignment–more accurately genital mutilation–surgery, starting taking hormones and began to cross-dress to appear like a woman.
Yeah, so don’t try and say that it’s discriminatory to have these laws. It’s common sense. It doesn’t make anyone who supports them a bigot or a religious zealot.
Makes it easy for you to avoid answering questions, like about what bathroom folks like this person should use. You’d prefer that he was required by law to use the ladies room?
