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@Jimmy_Chitwood

There can’t be cross purposes when only one of us has a purpose.

That’s almost cute.

I’ve been making a pretty straightforward point over and over again. […]

Meanwhile I’ve demonstrated that the actual changes in society were explicitly premised on: the effects of discrimination. Which is my point.

Yes, it’s true you’ve been saying that over and over again, and by all indications will continue doing so. I didn’t comment on this point and probably won’t. But along with all these repititions you also chose to make another point, in accusing those who oppose all discrimination of conveniently adopting a self-serving position, and I chose to comment on this particular point.

Your opinion is that the express basis for opposition to discrimination, as articulated by civil rights leaders at the time, is irrelevant because the talking points – opposition qua opposition – were what motivated people. OK, that’s your opinion.

I think it’s relevant to some things and irrelevant to others. If you’re going to comment on whether people are conveniently adopting self-serving attitudes, then the actual attitudes people had at the time - as opposed to nuanced positions in books and interviews - are what’s relevant.