Finally someone said it out loud [racist opposition to the ACA]

On NPR’s Morning Edition this morning, there was a story

I will let the story speak for itself:

I was gratified that NPR had the balls to let that statement stand. The reporter didn’t comment on it, but it lay there-- splat!– like the big, steaming turd that it is, for everyone to see, hear, and smell.

Uggh. I’m from Louisiana, and I’m not surprised. I’m far from a fan of Landrieu, but I think it’s pretty likely she’s about the best the state has a decent chance of sending to the Senate.

Ahhh…yes.

Almost 50 years after the. Civil Rights Act was passed and you can count on White racism spilling freely out of the mouth of an average White Southerner. How refreshing…

In fairness, I don’t think this guy is the “average” white Southerner. He is a backwoods, ignorant, hidebound, stubborn ol’ boy with a mind that snapped shut around 1940.

Unfortunately, this thinking is shared by some middle/upper middle class, well-educated, moderately prosperous/quite prosperous citizens who DON’T live in the Bayous. I know, because I live next door to a couple, and have lunch with some others, and one of them is in my book club. We steer waaaay clear of all political talk. They would never say what this guy said out loud so blatantly, but it’s between the lines of everything they do say about President Obama.

I’m not sure this means what you think it does: this guy’s a dumb shit, but that doesn’t mean all the opposition to Obama and the ACA is race-based (some of it is, but you can’t establish that based on one moron), and I’m not sure it’s a bad thing if it took a long time for somebody to say it.

I don’t get the point here. I’ve known African Americans that consider all Caucasians to be white devils. I’ve known a few gay people who thought wiping out all straights except for a few to keep as “breeders” was a great idea. I wouldn’t judge either group by the statements of a few idiots.

So what’s your point? They finally found some idiot to say that? And you really believe it took balls for NPR to leave that statement in the story?

Yes, but there are a lot more of those than you think.

I’m guessing the point is to accuse anyone who opposes the ACA of being racist.

The Democrats seem to realize that if the ACA is judged on its merits, that’s bad for them, so they prefer accusing anyone who discusses the merits of the ACA of being racist.

No, the point is that some do oppose it for that reason alone.

He may not be typical, but really? A Louisianan named Beau? What’s next, a Minnesotan named Svenssen?

The great internet law of trolldom states that there is always at least one person who will intentionally be controversial. The laws of statistics say that there is at least one who truly believes it. The law of the media says that give this man a microphone, and his words will seem more significant and typical than they really are. Not particular enamored of Landrieu or ACA as it stands, but this isn’t really a cromulent comparison. Plus I don’t think this guy would base his opposition on the economic and practical concerns of ACA, and not on the fact that there is not a white Baptist (and not those damn splitter North 3rd St. Baptists) in DC.

Um…you are WAAAAY off base WRT to my post.

The point is that it is my belief that the single ROOT of hatred of Obama is racist.

This is apart from antagonism of the ACA-- which is a smoke screen and gives “letigimacy” to hating an uppity black man Harvard graduate who had the bare-faced nerve not only to run for President, but to win. I only quoted the part from the story about the ACA to give it context, and to show that Landrieu’s 20-year history of helping her constituents was negated/erased/blown to smithereens because she supported the signature achievement of this uppity black man who had the nerve to step out of his place.

And this dumb shit’s racist opinion is, unfortunately, shared by many not-so-dumb people who won’t/can’t admit that they hate Obama because he’s an uppity black man. So they focus on the ACA. I have the misfortune to know some of these people, and I know there are more out there. At no time is this post/thread meant to make any comment on the merit or lack of merit of the ACA itself.

That is my only reason for posting this story. Not to say that this guy’s opinion is worth squat. But to hear even a dumb shit like this guy say it on a national media outlet is ballsy of the network. I would expect any mainstream station to edit that out as… well, as a racist comment, the way the n-word might be bleeped.

That is my point.

Actually, odds are the guy wasn’t born when the Civil Rights Act was passed. And having lived in the South for six years (and around a number of Kentucky transplants here in Northern Indiana) I’d have to say that racial tolerance would be the exception and not the rule.

PS: Why would you socialize with people who hold racist political views?
Diversity?

No doubt they sometimes have other likable qualities.

Which, of course, is itself no argument for the ACA or against it; but, it is a fact both interesting and important.

The problem is that the quote does not show this at all. One hick that is quoted as saying that blacks should know their place does not speak for the entire state. Have you considered that the majority of people who have turned against Landrieu did so because they don’t like ACA? Remember about 40% of LA voters voted for Obama in 2008 and in 2012.

:slight_smile:

Because they are blood kin, and its Thanksgiving.

I’m not sure what your point is. Racism is hardly a Southern trait. (The resurgent KKK of the 1920s was established in Indiana and actually ruled the state for a couple of years.) There are probably a few areas in the South where racism is more openly displayed, but I would have no trouble finding similar locations in the North and West.

As well as Maine, of all places.

Been there. :slight_smile: