Find me a link this painting of blue eyes Jesus

[newcrasher]

@Fear Itself

Nuh uh….Perhaps the faithful always see the Jesus they want to see.

This person is misremembering. Finding a person who’s incorrect memory of a painting matches your opinion does not make your opinion accurate.

Here is the transcript of a show on ABC National Radio about the Sallman painting whose summary is How did a particular image of Jesus, with sandy brown hair and blue eyes, become the most popular Christian icon in the modern West?

Here is a lectionary webzine with that claims the eyes in the painting are saccharine blue .

An article in USAToday contrasts Mel Gibson’s Christ with the famous blond, blue-eyed Head of Christ 1941 portrait by Warner Sallman, .

The eyes ARE in fact blue in the painting, and it has always struck me as racially pretensious and self righteous. Like white Christians claim Christ certainly identifies with them, and whites are the chosen people, the rest obviously less like Jesus…I mean just look at them…

[Fear_Itself]

@newcrasher

This person is misremembering.

Says you? Perhaps he saw an earlier, unaltered version of the painting.

Finding a person who’s incorrect memory of a painting matches your opinion does not make your opinion accurate.

But it does make your statement about “all commentaries” incorrect.

[newcrasher]

@Fear Itself

I dispute it, therefore this statement is false.

And it makes you wrong…

@Fear Itself

I contend that it is unresolved. There could certainly be altered versions of the painting out there,

Do you have a shred of evidence to support this?

@Fear Itself

Until we can examine the original, I have an open mind.

OK - its your prerogative. But we call it “Jesus of Sfeeden” with a bad swedish accent because the eyes are so obviously blue in real life.

I don’t know why you insist that I either cannot identify the color blue or I have a reason to lie about this.

[newcrasher]

@Fear Itself

Says you? Perhaps he saw an earlier, unaltered version of the painting. But it does make your statement about “all commentaries” incorrect.

Sure… I can admit I was wrong about that. But where do you get the idea that the picture has other, unaltered versions? Did you just make it up? Or do you have a cite?

[Fear_Itself]

@newcrasher

I don’t know why you insist that I either cannot identify the color blue or I have a reason to lie about this.

Don’t take it so personal, news. I just disagree with you. Apparently you have issues with people who hold a different opinion from your own.

[Fear_Itself]

@newcrasher

But where do you get the idea that the picture has other, unaltered versions? Did you just make it up? Or do you have a cite?

I offer it only as a possible explanation for the difference of opinion. I neither contend that altered paintings exist, nor do I have a cite. It is simply reasonable doubt.

[newcrasher]

@Fear Itself

Don’t take it so personal, news. I just disagree with you. Apparently you have issues with people who hold a different opinion from your own.

No - I enjoy debating people regarding their opinions. If you wanted to debate the merits and foibles inherrant in having a blue eyed Jesus be the most popular image of Christ in America, we could debate that. Plenty of room for give and take. In fact, we should have at it over in GD.

But the color of the eyes in the painting is not an opinion. I have seen the painting and they are blue. There is ample evidence from many sources that the blue eyes are the subject of much debate.

But if you have evidence of altered versions of this painting I am willing to consider that I may be in error here.

[Fear_Itself]

@newcrasher

But if you have evidence of altered versions of this painting I am willing to consider that I may be in error here.

I have put the word out on the street for any information on the blue-eyed Jesus; I will let you know what Huggy Bear finds out.

[newcrasher]

@Fear Itself

I have put the word out on the street for any information on the blue-eyed Jesus; I will let you know what Huggy Bear finds out.

Sorry to get so strident, but I am not used to the “your evidence *could * be invalid” argument around here. At least not without some substantiation.

“Fighting Ignorance Since 1973 - It’s taking longer than we thought”

I can see why…

[Fear_Itself]

@newcrasher

Sorry to get so strident, but I am not used to the “your evidence *could * be invalid” argument around here. At least not without some substantiation.

“Fighting Ignorance Since 1973 - It’s taking longer than we thought”

I can see why…

Oh for pete’s sake, give it a rest. I was not the only one who looked at your picture and decided the eyes didn’t look blue. There really is no hypothesis to debate, no ignorance to fight; only a difference of opinion. Is it so hard for you to accept that without a snarky parting shot at those who disagree with you?

[newcrasher]

@Fear Itself

Oh for pete’s sake, give it a rest. I was not the only one who looked at your picture and decided the eyes didn’t look blue. There really is no hypothesis to debate, no ignorance to fight; only a difference of opinion. Is it so hard for you to accept that without a snarky parting shot at those who disagree with you?

MAybe I am hyper-sensitive because I feel so passionately about the depiction of Jesus as blue eyed. I opened an IMHO here .

[aktep]

@Fear Itself

Here is tha largest online version I could find, and they are not blue. Is it possible some publishers altered the original to appear to ethnophobes?

I dunno – the resolution is choppy, but those look blue to me. And the second link Squink gives has unquestionably blue eyes, which shows the artist did paint the eyes blue at least once other than this painting.

[AskNott]

From what I can glean, most of Warner Sallman’s works are jointly held by Anderson University and Warner Press here in town. Everybody there has gone home for the day, right now. Tomorrow, I’m tangled up in car repair shops, but I’ll try to find out and maybe personally see the original painting. I’ll get back to you.

[Inigo_Montoya]

Look blue to me. Uh…what was the question?

[Bippy_the_Beardless]

@newcrasher

But the color of the eyes in the painting is not an opinion. I have seen the painting and they are blue. There is ample evidence from many sources that the blue eyes are the subject of much debate.

Have you seen the original oil painting?

If not, then you do not know with the amount of assurance that you believe you have. That said, I’d be pretty certain the original has blue eyes. But since I have seen no info pertaining directly to the eye color of the original, but to various prints, I wouldn’t conclude with as much vehemence as you are using here.

Do people really like that painting? It looks like something Kinkade would coble together, at least in the images of it that I have seen. Though I reserve the possibility that the original is far better than the prints give it credit.

[bubble_pop_electric]

What’s the big deal about His eyes being blue? People have a long history of depicting religious icons in a way they can relate to. Our Lady of Guadelupe, one of the most famous image of Mary in existence, depicts her as a Hispanic woman.