Ha! Good one!
An internal review board will investigate, and find that, given the circumstances, the officers acted in a manner they thought was best. Their punishment is one week of paid leave.
Who wants to bet that this guy disappears, and we find out in 10 years that he’s been living in Mexico as the baddest drug cartel enforcer around?
Or that he went into the depths of the mountain, found a lonely place, blew his brains out, and in 10 years only a few bones are found which would need DNA analysis to be identified.
He sounds rather unstable to me. I think that it is not implausible that such an unstable person would kill himself in a way similar to what I outlined.
I’m assuming many of you already know about this story, but I didn’t see a thread. This is a bizarre story and seems to be a plot spun out of Hollywood.
Here’s the timeline:
http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_22540738
and part of his manifesto:
http://ktla.com/2013/02/07/read-christopher-dorners-so-called-manifesto/#axzz2KLORzPYH
The gist is that he killed a newly engaged couple seemingly at random but the woman was the daughter of his attorney during his dismissal trial from the LAPD. He then ambushed 2 other cops and now is leading the cops on a manhunt.
The question is… what are your thoughts? I’m still reeling.
LA cops are going crazy over this, they have already shot two innocent bystanders, and fired on one other in cases of mistaken identity:
Thursday, Feb 7:
" LAPD officers guarding a manifesto target in Torrance open fire on a truck they mistakenly believe to be Dorner’s. Two women are wounded. A short time later, Torrance police are involved in a second shooting involving a different truck they also mistake for Dorner’s. Nobody is hurt. "
I have never worked in Law Enforcement, but damn. The cops seem a little jumpy.
If you own a dark blue or grey Nissan Titan, you might want to rent a white Yugo for the next couple of days.
I read his ‘manifesto’ and if he is even 75% correct, he ought to be given the blessed scythe of righteousness +1 and collect some heads inside his haversack of vengeance. For the record, I don’t doubt his honesty, this was a man returned in $8000 he found while in Oklahoma plus (despite what’s happened) his neighbors, former co-workers, family have nothing but good things to say about him. I think he was telling the truth. I’m rooting for him, not because I want to see people die, but because I think, for the most part, it’s a lesson white people rarely grasp. The first lesson is that the truth matters and the second could be summed up with “Don’t let your mouth write a check that your ass can’t cash.”
If you haven’t read the manifesto, you should. It might be angry, it might be rage-filled, but it’s certainly not “mindless rambling” which has been portrayed in the media. Basically, he was canned from the LAPD after standing up for a schizophrenic person who was unnecessarily kicked while handcuffed (the nerve of him!). He also talks about long-standing problems with racism in the LAPD and how it breeds racist Caucasian officers.
Anyway, good for him, I hope he executes every last one of those racist motherfuckers. The fact LAPD with their resources can’t find a 270 lb black man armed to the teeth with weaponry is evidence that they can’t do shit. Oh! Did you hear? The LAPD shot up a car that mistakenly believed belonged to Dorner - it didn’t belong to him, it belonged to two ladies who were delivering papers. So yeah, the LAPD almost murdered two women (currently, they’re in the hospital with gunshot wounds) with no proof, that should be indicative of how ridiculously inept law enforcement (specifically the LAPD) is.
Here’s a fellow willing to kill completely innocent people to teach the world a lesson about racism.
Quality guy, and quality analysis, Honesty.
I read his manifesto and I think he’s a nutcase. Also, a bit light for intelligence, if he thinks slaughtering defenseless innocents will advance his cause against racist coworkers.
Say; you don’t own a gun, do you?
Glad you did. After reading it, did you come to the conclusion he was lying about what happened in 2008?
I may be wrong on this, but I think it is possible to both think that the LAPD is rife with corruption and problems, and also to think that the way to protest and solve the problems is not to go on a killing rampage, especially one that involves killing innocent and unrelated people.
This is a joke, right? a parody of what some sort of deranged ultra leftist radical might say? I hope so, otherwise it’s pretty fucking stupid and disgusting.
I am unable to come to a conclusion about such an event without hearing testimony from all sides.
But I’m pretty sure Monica Quan and Keith Lawrence didn’t screw him over.
This guy’s gone, mentally.
I read it and it struck me as fairly typical ramblings of a nutjob looking to pin blame for their problems in life on every possible target except for themselves. And he keeps asserting that the incident involving the alleged abuse of the suspect must be true just because the (mentally ill) suspect himself says-on video-it’s true. That’s not much of a convincing argument, as far as I’m concerned.
Really? You think he could be making up all of that, huh? Well, we can take home from this that Mr. Dorner has an imagination that would dwarf the black-haired kid from Bobby’s World. I’ll put my cards on a table and say I don’t think he made any of it up. What would be the purpose to a character that’s about honesty (Evidenced by returning $8000 and social circle that has yet to say a bad thing about him) only for him to purposefully fabricate an incident on a fellow police officer and be dismissed from the LAPD for lying. Furthermore, why would send presumably fake evidence to Anderson Cooper? It doesn’t add up.
Nope and never will.
I agree with you but we’re also a product of a society that he who cries the loudest, gets the attention. He had already been dismissed from the LAPD, what other meaningful avenues did he have? Sure, maybe he could’ve sued for damagesbut he was excommunicated from the force for, above all else, deliberately lying about an incident.
He’s a man who’s been pushed to the limit and is lashing out with what he’s most familiar with: unfettered violence. I don’t think he’s “gone” (Jared L. was “gone”) at all and there’s no way a jury would convict him of insanity; indeed, based on his ‘manifesto’, Mr. Dorner knows exactly what he’s going to do and how his journey will inexorably end.
I’m willing to believe everything bad he has to say about LAPD. (for the sake of argument, since I really don’t know “both sides.” ) I would even be willing to believe it’s worse and more widespread than he says. Nonetheless, I don’t think his current actions are justified (I hope that’s not debatable) nor do I even think it adequately explains his behavior. Many, many people in the U.S. and around the world have been the victims of great injustice. It is not an excuse to behave this way.
I think your analysis here is quite telling of the incident of itself. You’ve basically laid out very good reasoning why Mr. Dorner was likely dismissed from the LAPD as well as setting the threshold for proving a schizophrenic got attacked by a police officer insurmountably high. I imagine it went something like:
Officer A: Officer B kicked SchizoMan while he was handcuffed.
Officer B: Did not! He’s lying
SchizoMan: He did kick me!
Judge: I agree Officer B. Officer A is just hatin’ on you and SchizoMan’s testimony has no weight because . . . well . . . he’s mentally ill.
Officer B: Great! Can we terminate Officer A for purposefully lying on me?
Judge: Sure!
The evidence indicates that Dorner had conflicts with the cop (who was his training officer) he accused. And even if was wrongly treated by the LAPD and every word of it is true, once you go around murdering people you lose all my sympathy. Just as much as the Goldman family would have lost all my sympathy if they had gone out and shot Johnny Cochran and the jury members in that trial.
You consider murdering people “a meaningful avenue”?
I believe Mr. Heinlein wrote in Starship Troopers that war in controlled violence and this applies even more to police work. And I don’t see how he’s been pushed to the “limit”-he was fired but plenty of people get fired and the overwhelming majority of them don’t go around on a violent rampage out of some bad action movie.
I did not say this. Clark Cello did.
Please be more careful attributing quotes to me.
I don’t have any opinions about the LAPD.
Well apparently the first incident took place in the early morning, so the police might not have been able to see who was in the car. I’m not trying to excuse the shooting by those cops, I’m just trying to avoid jumping to conclusions and making sure this is being at all angles.
My bad, maybe a mod can change it? I was doing a bit copy/paste and forgot to change the name. 