Look, I don’t give a rat’s ass what pushed him to the limit. The fact that he’s butchering innocent people in cold blood to get revenge tells me he’s gone, mentally. Based on the text in his manifesto, he’s on the low-functioning end to begin with, and it’s quite possible the only thing he’s familiar with is unfettered violence. This doesn’t mean unfettered violence is a reasonable response, particularly when “unfettered violence” in this case means murdering people completely uninvolved in the perceived offense.
You’ve picked a rather odd and particularly malignant person to defend.
Say, you wouldn’t consider borrowing a gun, would you?
Too bad we don’t offer treatment to the mentally ill in this country. At least the schizophrenic man who was or was not kicked wouldn’t have triggered all of this. Or the mass shootings that occur every few days.
Then that practically guarantees it will happen again, and again, until more people do care. His experience doesn’t justify his actions, but you ignore his experience at your own peril.
You sure seem fixated on the fact that he returned $8k in found money eleven years ago. You do realize that a whole bunch of crazy people weren’t born crazy, right? Hell, even a Catholic priest could suffer his first schizophrenic episode and do something like this, over-fucking-night. That doesn’t justify murder. This isn’t the fucking Negotiator, it’s real life. His past isn’t relevant here, guy.
Oh, and even though the viewer was supposed to side with Samuel L. Jackson in that movie, he still would have gone to jail because he voluntarily took hostages and, most importantly, got Niebaum killed (which, even though it was done by somebody else, is still his fault because it wouldn’t have happened if he hadn’t caused the hostage situation in the first place). Murder during commission of a crime, I believe it’s called.
The mindless murder of innocents by a nutcase on a rampage is not going to make me care about his cause.
Not even if he nukes all of LA.
As I think about it, even the cold-blooded murder of every individual in the United States would not make me sympathetic to his cause. It would just confirm that he’s a nutcase on a rampage. With this degree of malignant behaviour, I am not at all surprised he lost his case.
As I recall, in his manifesto he feels the appropriate response to hearing a fellow officer use the term “nigger” should have been to put a bullet in the fellow officer’s brain.
This is a guy with marginal intelligence, completely unable to control his rage, who has gone off the deep end.
I agree that I, and others, are in peril from this fruitcake, but I guess I’ll just have to pay more attention when I’m out and about innocently minding my own business.
Terrible story, and yes, the police aren’t doing themselves any favors. Here’s hoping this psycho has already blown his brains out and won’t hurt anyone else.
Honesty, could you explain why Monica Quan and Kieth Lawrence deserved death? Niether of them were LAPD. They were university employees. Quan was the daughter of someone who tried to help Dorner, for crying out loud.
Please don’t ever use this “adults are talking” phrase again. No matter how stupid the argument you are addressing is, you look even stupider by saying it.
Its no doubt true there is corruption and racism in the LAPD, to what degree I couldnt say. It certainly doesnt justify cold blooded murder. However Mr. Dorner does know exactly what hes doing I believe. Doesnt makes it right but its not surprising. People are capable of much much worse. His manifesto is a bit, well not exactly elegant prose shall we say, but that could be a sign of the intense emotion and stress he must be experiencing. He does seem to have thought deeply about all of this. I woud not make the mistake of under-estimating his intelligence or abilities, even if its “just in case”. Again not justifying his actions but that is the reality of his situation in his head.
Its an intense story. I hope no more innocents are endangered, by Dorner OR the police. Did he freeze to death? Blow his brains out? Will he? More crazy shooting and an ongoing thing? Turn himself in? Get gunned down trying to? Getting settled in for the big Nor’easter here in PEI, the weekends not looking good for getting out of the house so I will ashamedly take part in the media-fest.
They were paying no attention whatsoever. Completely unaware they were in danger before this idiot slaughtered them.
That’s why I’m so glad you warned me about the peril I’m in for not caring about Dorner’s cause. Now that I know I’m in peril, I can pay more attention when I am out and about, innocently minding my own business.
You should get out there and warn others about ignoring Dorner’s experience so that they won’t be in peril either. Thank goodness you got to me in time. You may have saved my life.
I never punched anyone’s family because that person pissed me off.
PS. I don’t think this business is going to do too much good as far as ending LAPD racism goes.
Since Dorner is black, he’s simply put one more story out there of a black man exhibiting blind and mindless rage for any racists to consume. This will have the opposite effect of ending LAPD–or any other–racism, unfortunately.
Were his violence directed at those he feels betrayed him, he’d still be abjectly wrong, but the story might make more sense.
By slaughtering innocents mindlessly, he has painted himself as incapable of putting two coherent thoughts together, or creating a cogent case of any kind.