Flash: new TV show (boxed spoilers)

Oh, and Ronnie Raymond is Firestorm.

For the comic squeamish:

I thought they were going to do something with that. During the “previously on” portion they flashbacked to you-know-who dying in the particle accelerator explosion, but then nothing. C’mon, we know his energy particles are floating around there somewhere.

Why name-drop Ralph Dibny? Think we might see an Elongated Man in the future? The effects would be do-able ala ST:DS9’s Odo.

I understood Dr. Wells to mean these people were all dead, so… no Ralphing on the Flash.

Eh, it’s superheroes. Death is about on the same level as a bad hangover.

Personally, I’d take anything Dr. Wells says with a grain of salt. Have we seen any of these corpses? Ronnie Raymond, for one, is still inside the whatever-it-is. “Consider no man dead until after you have seen the body, and even then, it’s possible to make a mistake.” I think that’s from one of the Dune novels by Frank Herbert.

Heck, people thought that metal guy was dead (well, the coworkers that were nearby when he fell - I gather his “death” was not widely reported) and he came back, for a while.

I can picture Will Everett popping up as some variant on the Amazing-Man character, which was basically a ripoff of Marvel’s Absorbing Man. Dead, schmead.

S01E08

Fun episode. Super Hero crossover! All kinds of development.

The Captain has a boyfriend and he isn’t a cliche and they didn’t make a big deal about it. That’s refreshing. Well, police captains are always diversity. Oh, well.

Oliver: “My identity is a secret only known by a few (hundred) people.”

I assume the girl at the end was the one he got pregnant in High School (we knew she would come back at some time)

Brian

Yes. Oliver’s mom paid her a lot of money to move *far *away. I guess when she heard mom died, it was time to move back.

So she moved to nearby Central City? Must not have been paid nearly enough.

Wasn’t that Ronnie (Firestorm) Raymond in the teaser at the end of the last episode? The guy with his head (and hands) on fire?

Arrow said what we’ve all screamed at the TV at one time or another. He told Flash he’s got plenty of time to assess a given situation but opts to rush blindly into the fray instead. Flash scoffs at the need, given the “magic problem-solving ability” that his speed imparts, forgetting how many times relying on his speed alone has let him down. So, Arrow shows him, rather pointedly (heh), the error of putting all one’s eggs into one basket.

That boy has a lot to learn, but I don’t think he’s going to become the tactician/strategist that Arrow is. Which is a good thing, since we don’t want the same person in 2 different shows. Hopefully, though, we’ll see the lesson sink in a little bit.

As for Wells figuring out Arrow’s secret ID, did he get it from his future-computer room, or through detective work? If the latter, it points out that secret IDs stand up to scrutiny about as well as wet tissue paper, especially in this day and age of instant global information exchange and the proliferation of surveillance equipment as a normal part of a city’s infrastructure.

I thought it was amusing when Oliver, Barry, and Felicity are having coffee and Iris is gushing over Oliver. It wouldn’t be hard for Wells to access surveillance footage of Barry’s known hangouts. I could also see Iris telling her dad she got to meet the billionaire Oliver Queen, and Cop Dad figures it out, and or tells Wells.

And yes, that’s definitely Firestorm at the end. Who knows what moniker Cisco will give him.

Just the latter part is fun and refreshing - he said it just like “…my girlfriend…” and no one so much as blinked.

The line was 30 seconds past when I reached for the remote and Mrs. B. said, “WHAT did he say?” at the same moment. Just as with puns, such little bomblets have to be judged by the period of silence following them, before the reaction.

Nice development overall, even if it was a bit rushed and phony in spots.

I don’t watch Arrow so I appreciate I was able to follow everything in both episodes well enough. I enjoyed the crossover. I also liked the Rocky-esque ending where we never see who wins.

It’s funny how they have essentially made Arrow and the Flash stand ins for the philosophies of Batman and Superman.

Yeah, it kind of bothers me. At least with Ollie.

I’m just hoping that they’ll introduce a nephew for Iris named Wallace.

I think it’s great. They did in one, well two, episodes what they haven’t managed to do with a gazillion dollars worth of other movies and TV shows.

I agree. I like it too.