Flash: new TV show (boxed spoilers)

And yet almost every person he’s fought has been able to tag him with their first swing (powers being a separate category of attack, but they’re nearly 100% successful the first try, too). It’s much more obvious as live action than in the comics, but in both mediums Flash has to continually carry the idiot ball or his powers would render any threat meaningless. And we gots to have drama in our escapist fiction.

When the metalskin guy grabbed the flagpole Flash was using and swung our hero into the wall four times, well, heroic commitment aside, when do you think you would have let go? Given his sped-up perception (when he uses it, which doesn’t seem to be at all, really), I’d say Flash held onto that pole for a subjective 4 hours or more.

Well, I’ll keep quiet for the most part, aside from what has already been mentioned in the show. For example, I only caught, in the last episode, that the “impossible thing” Barry saw at his mom’s death included a “man in yellow”. As soon as I heard that, I knew who the culprit likely was.

Admittedly, I’m not as up on Flash’s history as I am on some other superheroes. Most of what I know of him comes from his appearances in other titles (Justice League, guest appearances/crossovers, etc.) But this particular villain is one I’d heard of. I just didn’t read enough of the Wikipedia entry to realize how much “spoiler” it might contain (I was mainly linking for the picture). I’m afraid I’d been awake since 4AM and was posting mere minutes before I really needed to get into bed, and forgot to consider “spoilers, man!”

Looks like Barry has only two speeds - normal and ludicrous. We won’t see him casually dodging punches in a way that looks nimble but not superhuman, or running at Olympic (but not superhuman) speed.

As for Colossus-copycat, why can’t Barry pick him up and run a few hundred yards and, say, drop him in a swimming pool or something? We’ve seen him carry humans of comparable mass (granted, the mass issue is somewhat muddied in this case), so why is he stupidly trading punches with this clown and hanging onto flagpoles beyond all credibility?

It seems Flash has to consciously turn his powers on. If he’s distracted and his powers aren’t on, he gets punched and thrown around. Doesn’t really hold up to any actual thought, though.

As for the Big Spoiler, we already openly compare and contrast and speculate using comic knowledge, so we might as well talk about it.

Eddie Thawne might have the same last name as Flash’s future nemesis, but not the same first name. Sooner or later Iris will probably dump Eddie and he may end up blaming Flash, but it makes no sense for Eddie to kill Flash’s mom. That’s what brings Barry & Iris together. He’d be better off saving Barry’s mom.

Heck, Eddie Thawne could turn out to be Eobard Thawne’s ancestor. Somewhere along the way, Eddie gets temporarily killed, Eobard disappears, Flash restores things, life goes on.

I’d actually be quite happy if Eddie turned out to be a counterpart of MALCOLM Thawn. Actually, I’d be happier if he has a younger brother named Malcolm, who looks strikingly like Barry.

(OTOH, neither of comic-Iris’s fathers is a cop named Joe - current canon, he’s an abusive asshole named William, prior canon he was a scientist named Ira. Joe’s actually absorbed a lot of the role of current-continuity Darryl Frye, the cop who raised Barry.)

Hrrm. Bit of a bummer that this has become fair play for spoilers–as someone who’s not read the comics, I’d rather stay unspoiled. Hopefully I’ll be able to forget them before they become relevant; for now, I guess I’m out of this thread.

Cheers, y’all.

I’m indifferent about spoiler boxing comic discussion. Whatever the thread wants is fine with me. No reason to ban comic discussion though. The comics themselves have been rewritten so many times it’s impossible to know what’s going to happen.

Agreed. Barry can move Iris up to the roof and be several yards from her before she can react - he should be able to do that with villians too (in the JL cartoon a few years back Lex Luthor got Flash’s powers (the hard way) and he was smart enough to be really dangerous).

PS. Pseudo-Colossus isn’t one of those guys whose glory days were high school -his glory days were apparently middle school :eek:

And who is this guy? I don’t recall a character like him from the comics.

Girder debuted in '01.

His powers are different in the comics…he’s ALWAYS metal, and seems to be made up of girders and bits of rebar, rather than simply having metal skin. So, even being familiar with him, I had to look him up to figure out who he was.

April 25, 2024. Flash disappears, the skies turn red, Batman & Green Arrow’s companies merge and someone resurrected cute baby wooly mammoths. Eddie probably isn’t a bad guy and is kind of cute when stoned. Dr. Wheelchair has a computer named Gideon that can access and search the future, and it is imperative the future remain intact. But, Dr. Greedy McWheelchair wants the same powers as Flash. Cop Dad is impressively well read. We’ll see Clock Guy again no doubt, and perhaps they’ll explain how he got a bullet-proof vest. Flash can move faster than electricity, and he’s just getting started. People standing in line for coffee suddenly find a fresh cup in their hands and just say “huh.” A cop suddenly finds himself standing next to some dude in his underwear and instantly knows he’s up to no good. How did he get there? “Huh.” Mr. Steel Guy wasn’t all that bad, in the end. Sniff.

Good ep, I’d say.

ETA: Is that braille on the walls in Gideon’s room? Some old computer punchcard type code?

Re the free coffee: There are people who won’t question what happens before they’ve had their first cup of it in the morning.

Actually, the headline read ‘Red Skies Vanish’; in the alternate future, it was ‘Red Skies Threaten’.

Also, among the names rattled off by Prof. Wheelchair as having been killed in the accelerator incident was one I recognized from comics:

Ralph Dibny, aka Elongated Man.

Did anybody spot anyone else?

True. But he can’t speed up the flow of the coffee into the cups that much surely? :stuck_out_tongue:

I didn’t recognize any, but as soon as he started listing them I figured some of them would be easter eggs.

Regarding the coffee: yeah, he can’t make it brew faster or pour faster. That would be an interesting super power though.

Al Rothstein, Atom-Smasher; Will Everett, Amazing Man, and Bea DeCosta, Fire. There were many more.

Thanks, Prof. Pepperwinkle! If anyone’s interested, there’s a rundown of this and other easter eggs here.

Possibly comic-book spoiler-y question:

In this picture of the cosmic treadmill, who’s the guy in the wheelchair next to it? The picture’s from the cosmic treadmill wiki entry.

I think it’s Hunter Zolomon, but an easy summary of how he fits into the Flash pantheon escapes me.