That was Shohreh Aghdashloo, wasn’t it? I knew it as soon as I heard the voice.
I don’t think Cho/Noh is going to die. I think Shohreh’s character is involved in the plot and is misleading him.
I too wish Joe Fiennes would tell his wife what he saw - by not telling her, he’s driving a wedge between them and assuring his own future, etc. etc. Plus, I don’t like their characters or their family much.
I hate to say it but the keeping secrets thing is a little too Lost-y. I can understand not wanting to tell his wife and co-workers but be didn’t even tell his AA sponsor, did he? I thought that was the whole point of a sponsor, someone you talk to when you want to take a drink?
No he told his sponsor in the first episode.
Uh… when you discover there was a cellphone call made during the blackout, wouldn’t the obvious next step be to check if there were any other calls made during that time? I was irked that they didn’t even seem to consider that.
Oops, guess I missed that.
Are we really not starting a second thread for 10/1 ??
Ok.
So yeah, this show is going to play with us. That being said, I can’t shake how stilted charley’s (is it?) last lines were
On D Gibbons
D gibbons is a bad man
I mean, it would seem to me, that this was planted in her brain, to tell her father. It is too much 180, and to offered up freely. It is the one perfect thing that the main character needed to hear.
That being said, I guess the Artifacts [That is what they are] we got from the second episode are throw aways. What value does the picture of the doll have now?
On Dylan
I noticed he had a head injury. Brain Surgery… I wonder if he doesnt have something extra to the entire plot. Then again, I immediately want to say that Dylan and Charley are ying and yang. that they help each other out, but that implies that charley does have a power of some sort.
I dont know, just, the caracters and we the viewers are not done assuming the wrong things.
Only thing constant is change, afterall.
Good freaky open. Freaky creepy open. Good callback in the doll factory.
I am glad I re-read that this show has been mapped out for 7 years. will be interesting, when the characters [if the characters, for that matter] end up living in the past. the GBO is 2010 right? My math leaves me with 5 seasons left after that.
I am not a Sci-Fi guy at all, but I liked the premise and the first two episodes are both good, but there are little things that sure dont ring true…
I generally dont nitpick TV shows, but its really hard to believe that directly after the most destructive event mankind has ever suffered, a surgeon would go to her hospital, so full of injured patients that they are lining the halls, and have nothing better to do than sew her daughters stuffed animal back up.
Would an FBI agent working this breaking case have the chance to leave work to go to his daughters school because the daughter shoved a little boy on the playgroung and ran off???
If something is supposed to be believable, the little things can trip up the whole suspension of disbelief in a flash.
Do we even know if we are currently watching the ““Truth”” if the events after ? :dubious:
I agree. I can suspend my disbelief that something is able to make (nearly) every human on Earth pass out and see the future, but it’s minor stuff like that that bother me.
Is Shohreh Aghdashloo playing an Iranian? Who is she working for?
I think the ship has sailed on that one, but I definitely support starting a thread next week for that episode, this one is getting long. I would do it myself but I get home late on Thursdays.
I’m thinking one of two things now.
The flash they all saw was as if the flash didn’t happen. The fact that some flashes seemed like closed time loops, or that some know of the flash are plot tricks (FBI Guy would’ve stumbled on the conspiracy plot of “flashing” anyway. The meeting of Dr. Mom and English dude was inevitable, etc…)
There is an event which causes them to forget, but it happens just before the “flash moment”. Therefore, there’s not much time for them to figure out that something huge and momentous happened six months earlier. So, they remain clueless of the flash during the actual moment.
Now, did crazy cupcake lady change her future by resolving the cloned credit card issue? I think I need to watch that part again… perhaps it was a clue that the future could be changed? I may have not been paying close attention though.
Also, I loved the injections of humor in this one. It was unexpected, but worked well. The cupcake lady’s flash-forward was hysterical. And the FBI Director’s flash circumstances were even better. Good stuff.
Agreed. I suggest a new thread for the next ep.
I’m having problems with the two main characters (FBI guy and his Doctor wife). They just don’t come off as realistic to me in their motivations and interactions, much as I like the actors indvidually. Also, I too knew the instant the female cop showed up and talked about having no memory of a flashforward, she was going to be sacrificed to advance the plot. She might as well have been issued a red shirt.
The one thing I’m not liking about this show is that it feels it needs to not just connect the dots, but hold our hands as we move the pen to that next dot.
How many times did Cho mention that he had no flash forward and that meant he was going to die? At least two to three times (not to mention the recap before this episode) and that was before the Pigeon cop got shot. And when she got shot, could they just leave it alone? No, again they had to have someone come right out and tell us “IT IS BECAUSE SHE HAD NO FLASH FORWARD. SEE? SEE? JUST LIKE CHO!” Thanks. We got it.
How many times do we need to flash to that doll’s head on the board? It’s the same one as in the future! We. Got. It. How many more times will we flash to the same image on the board all season long as the pieces get put together?
Yes, yes, you’ve shown us that the guy in the hospital was in the wife’s house in the future. It’s the same people. No, you don’t need to flash again. And again. Wait, you already showed us that in the recap anyway. Stop! WE GET IT. Same people. Seriously stop!
Agreed. The show thinks we’re idiots.
There are so many problems with this show, but I still feel the need to keep watching, solely because the high concept and the idea that they’d at least planned it out in advance was intriguing enough that I somehow want to see where it goes, even if none of the episodes along the way are ever very good.
Except that Joseph Fiennes is one of the most gorgeous men on the planet, IMHO. Admittedly, he’s not as pretty now as he was ten years ago in Shakespeare, but he’s still damned fine. As is everyone on the show; somehow the principals in TV shows are always better looking than real people, except for the occasional plot device that requires someone unattractive. Which is not to put down Fiennes’ acting abilities; he’s an outstanding actor. But if you think his looks had nothing to do with his casting, you need to re-evaluate.
It WAS pretty heavy handed, and I was thinking the same thing.
They seem determined not to let anyone (no matter how casually they watch) get off the track, and by doing that is a sort of a distraction to the serious veiwers.
I like the show quite well so far, but there are little things that make it hard to fully commit to it.
(as an aside, the woman who plays the FBI agent who was be pregnant in her flashforward is very attractive, and seems familiar. Anyone know about her?)
I’m sure this was probably just a production error, but FBI guy, after burning his friendship bracelet in the fire, was wearing the friendship bracelet when Charley tells him D. Gibbons is a bad man. Look at the point where he’s getting up off the bed.
He’s not wearing it when he sits down, but when the angle changes to the side of the bed and he’s getting up, he’s wearing it.
Charley’s aware of Dylan and D. Gibbons. Dylan is aware of Olivia. We haven’t seen anything that Dylan knows of Charley. have we?
I just wrote it off as Exposition for people who maybe didn’t see the pilot but were now tuning in. It’s still early on in the show that you don’t want to alienate new viewers with a ton of Mythology that they already have to get up to speed on. If they’re still doing it 6 weeks from now, then that’ll be annoying–but for now, I see it as necessary measures to ensnare people who may be coming in late but are still open to watching the show more regularly.
I watched my recorded episodes of Flashforward and CSI back to back and in both the plot lines were so blatantly telegraphed that I knew… the future!
It’s odd that they count on viewers being surprised about the cop lady being killed but hammer home the obvious small details. I’m sure that they’ve done focus groups to tell them that this is what works, but it does hurt the show.
Just like not immediately checking on all the other cell phone records. The reason they don’t is obviously that it isn’t a plot point. The writers know that this was the only phone call they need to worry about and they didn’t want to waste the precious moments of airtime down dead ends. (Then why do they repeat Cho’s story so often? I have no answer.)
Those few of you who look for such things will have noticed that a different team wrote this show. It wasn’t nearly as well written as the pilot, not unusual, but often a sign of whether a show will be able to continue in style. Way too early to make a call on that one but I’m hoping that next episode won’t be as clunky. The show has promise but could fail for me the same way Lost did in its first season.