Let’s see some more plot driven goodness. Something to give the ratings a kick in the pants. I’m not sure how much more we’ll see from Simon, but I’m hoping to get a better peak at his character. Is he a bad guy, or are they just making him appear that way? Some were speculating that he killed that chick on the Amtrak last episode, but I don’t think he did, since she did have a FF. Besides, not a good call to randomly murder someone on a train. Will we see Boxer the Kangaroo again?
Summary:
Mark and Demetri go to Utah to investigate a lead on a suspect who might have a connection to the global blackout. Olivia sees the man from her flashforward, while her daughter Charlie is having trouble dealing with hers.
Mark, Demetri, Gough and MI6 agent Fiona Banks investigate a Blue Hand club. A surprise visit sends Aaron back to square one about his late daughter. Demetri finally tells the truth to Zoey. Nicole volunteers at the hospital and decides to help Bryce with his flashforward.
I thought that other summary sounded familiar. :smack:
Well. About damn time. This ep, finally, directly addresses whether or not events can be altered from what the flashforwards supposedly show. Dopers who have been following this series probably can guess pretty easily what the answer is to that question.
Meanwhile, I enjoyed most of the back story on the death cult, although the whole sequence at the club where everyone seemed to be acting out roles in Blue Velvet was supremely silly. Ah, well. The bullet labeled ‘Not Today’ was a nice touch.
Hey, maybe this has been raised and answered, but what if the reason some people didn’t have flashforwards was simply because they were asleep at the future time? Huh? Huh?
[spoiler]The agent who jumped to his death wrote that he discovered a loophole – a way to avoid the flashforward future. Was what he discovered revealed? I may have missed it. Or is the loophole simply that he kills himself, thereby invalidating his flashforward, and the British agent’s flashforward too. (I can never remember the characters’ names.) Regardless, it gives everyone who had a “negative” flashforward hope that it can be avoided.
On a separate topic sort of, how does the soldier’s story about the death of the daughter get reconciled with the fact she mysteriously shows up? And who were the soldiers who destroyed their Humvee – they looked just like American soldiers. Huh?[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Near as I can tell, the loophole is indeed that one can negate their future by killing themselves, although by showing that the future can be changed this means that less extreme methods would probably work as well. Not sure, but maybe what is being gradually led up to here is that the flashforwards may be more defined by what the persons involved believe about themselves than actual events, but that’s pure speculation on my part.
Regarding the daughter, what was shown on camera leaves an out in which the corporal made a mistake of observation. He saw her laying on the ground and unresponsive, and with her leg off, and assumed she was dead. He didn’t have a chance to physically establish whether this was so, however.[/spoiler]
Really good episode. Best one I think since the pilot.
So, the future can be changed. Hrmm… Somehow, doesn’t that take the punch out of the whole premise?
Still, very intriguing, and hard to predict how this will all culminate.
What struck me about Dimitri and Zoe’s discussion, was she said they had conflicting visions, so let’s pick the good one, the one with hope. This brings it back to what Simon said about “superstates” and deciding what the result will be. Perhaps most peoples visions are really these “superstates” of the future. Or something.
Why can’t no flash forward remembered be like blackout drunk during that time, since we saw the main white FBI guy have fuzzy recall when being drunk. Why does everyone assume that they’re dead in the future. It’s one of many possible options, a coma, blackout drunk, dead and perhaps some other options creative people can think of.
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That’s actually quantum mechanics. Chaos Theory is different, and I believe more in the field of mathematics (as opposed to physics).
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Not yet! HUP tells us the more we know about one aspect of a subatomic particle (eg, an electron’s position), then the less we can know about another aspect of a subatomic particle (eg, an electron’s velocity). But you’re closer in that Zoe must be thinking about “collapsing their own wavefunction”
This was a really great episode for me. Finally resolved the issue of whether the future can be changed, had a really interesting plot with the blue hands death cult, and the guy’s sacrifice and resultant hope for those with dread for their futures was really touching. Each episode we see more of the stuff from the mosaic board as proof that the season really has been planned out. Gotta say I’m surprised to see the army daughter show up alive so soon. Next week:
“The Rules of the Game” title I was hoping meant we’d learn more about the mechanics of the flashforward and making changed to the timeline, etc. But the trailer shows a poker game to determine whether or not they reveal their experiment. I suppose it could still refer to both. Hope so. At the very least we get to see the two experimenters in dialogue so we’re sure to get at least some mythinfo.
