This has been sort of a frustrating series for me. It’s schizoid. About half of the stuff on screen makes me say to myself “Oh, that’s clever,” or “Yep, that’s what someone would actually do/say in this situation.” The other half just seems like boilerplate TV Drama stuff that I’ve seen and heard a million times before.
That said, tonight’s was one of the better episodes, I thought. Because, of course the people who think they’re going to die would be freaking out, banding together, and doing weird shit. More importantly, of course someone, somewhere would kill himself because he didn’t like his future and/or wanted to prove that the visions weren’t binding. Realistically, it should never have taken this long. The first thing people would do once they figured out what the flashforwards were would be to see if they could definitively invalidate them. You don’t have to do it by killing yourself or others, either. Did you have a vision of yourself shaving in front of the mirror? Get a tattoo on your face – boom, mystery solved. That (unique) painting in your living room that you saw when you blacked out? Burn it. This question would have been answered to everybody’s satisfaction by the day after the event.
Did anyone else think, when the handsome black agent was preparing to jump, that his fall would be broken by landing on Cecilia coming out of the building?
Exactly what I thought would happen. Then when it didn’t, I thought sexy British agent was going to have a stroke as her flash-forward had now been negated.
I thought this too, but mostly because of Lost’s “the universe has a way of course correcting” and if Celia is meant to die she may still die by some other means. The agent removed his involvement in it and he most certainly changed his future but that doesn’t mean something else won’t happen to Celia.
I am really getting tired of the explanation that the people without flashforwards could not have been asleep or they would have been dreaming, this is really annoying me, you don’t dream constantly when you’re asleep. Also, they could have been unconscious or anesthetized, you don’t dream in those states. So people killing themselves and taking huge risks that might kill them just seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I really liked this episode, but I was also struck on how unlikely the whole “ghost-society” bit was; human nature tells me that most who had no FF would not suddenly (after a mere couple of weeks?) become death seeking fatalists, simply resigned to dying and the certainty of their fate. No, I think that 99% of them would go on living like nothing had happened, while most of the remaining 1% would be attempting all sorts of things to change thier future and stay alive…
Also, the leader of the LA ghost society, (under questioning back at FBI headquarters) said that he DID have a FF, yet he was not worried about being locked up for being an accessory to murder. If he knew he was not going to die soon, I would think he would want to do what it took to make sure he didnt end up spending 30 years in prison.
Well, since the father saw her in his flashforward, she should have seen him in her flashforward. So maybe she decided to come visit him based on that?
Suicide is a stupid way to prove you can change the future. Why not quit the FBI, or commit a felony and get thrown in the slammer, or even cut off a finger/pluck out an eye? Any of those would have changed his future while still giving him a future.
All of those would have still left him able to kill that woman. He didn’t kill himself just to change the future, he did it because he didn’t want to cause that accident.
The point of his suicide wasn’t just to change his future, it was both to save the woman he would accidentally kill AND, nearly as important in his mind, to give his friends hope that their futures weren’t set in stone.
Best episode of the series so far IMO. This one was about as good as I was hoping the series would be. The previous episodes were not really “bad”, but even I was catching on to some of the dumber stuff going on (the very detailed and up to date crow censesus, for one), and normally my suspention of disbelief has a pretty high thresh hold. I’m very happy with the way they got the “can we change the what we say?” question out of the way this early.
And OMFG!!! Billy Talent/Newbie/Leoben!!! Glad to see Callum Keith Rennie working in a big American network series again. I’ve enjoyed his work in everything I’ve seen him in.
Not sure if it was intended that way, but I thought the blue hand head honcho (I think it was him) saying that he had a flashforward about ‘nothingness’ was perhaps meant to address this – that the ‘ghosts’ flashes were qualitatively different from those of people who merely were unconscious or something, and that if death was your fate, you’d know.
Well, an awful lot of people die during six months, and some of those of suicide, so there are those that already have the tendency; it only takes a comparatively small percentage to get something like the ghost society going.
I think he said that his FF was ‘about nothingness’, or something along those lines.
Can somebody help me out here as I have missed something or just lost the plot. I have seen the FFs with them together when the bird hits the window, and the phone call where he is told Celia is dead. Do we know any more than that? Did they both happen within his single FF, i.e. just a minute or two apart?
He and Alex Kingston were having a meeting about the Rutherford case. The bird hit the window. Then he got a phone call from his attorney and excused himself. I don’t think we know what she did while he was getting the phone call.