Well, gotta say that Peter Coyote does the worst impression of Obama I’ve ever seen.
Meanwhile, great googley moogley, what a frickin’ mess this episode was. I think this show has officially gone from one that watch for the interesting premise, to one that I watch to hoot at the implausibilities.
That figures…this was the first episode I was able to catch and it wasn’t very coherant.
Don’t feel bad. I’ve seen all the episodes and I didn’t think it was very coherent either.
To start a discussion though – clearly if the young, female, black-belt FBI agent dies, then that would prove that the future visions aren’t predestined. Do you think they’ll throw in that monkey wrench?
Naaaahh. She’ll live. If she dies then none of this means anything.
Not sure if it was episode 3 or 4 but the whole surgery bit was so stupid. They’ve already established that stuff is going to happen so why bother arguing about the treatment. It’s all going to happen anyway. And if it isn’t then what the hell is the point of all these flash forwards. And can’t they think of something less stupid to call those damn things?
Sorry guys but it had to be said. I haven’t missed an episode yet though but that’s only because work is really boring.
Aside from President not-Obama and the subject of his replacement for not-Biden (are we therefore in a parallel universe?), there’s the notion that a coordinated hit, in two locations, on five agents from the LA FBI office, all of whom happen to work on the same team, and four of whom had just left a closed-door congressional hearing concerning investigation of the flashforward, is somehow not going to be noticed by the press, or for that matter the freakin’ directorate of the FBI itself. WTF?
Sorry, but that’s just a bit more script stupidity than I can let slide.
I have never been that guy before, (the kind who only watches to mock and deconstruct) but I think I am going to have to join you!!!
I mean, I can actually go with a car full of four FBI agents being broadsided by an SUV, riddled with bullets, then blown up by a close range RPG, all surviving without a scratch, then heroically fighting off thier attackers—Its an action/cop/SciFi show, so all is fair and my disbelief can be overcome.
But an in-the-closet lesbian FBI agent, making out in a public restaurant with someone she is on a first date with, then bringing her back to her place, where the next morning she leaves for work, and invites her new ladylove to stick around and root thru her apartment?!?!?
I have never watched any cop dramas on a regular basis before, or almost any Sci-Fi—The few shows I have watched regularly have been sitcoms or random interest shows on occasion. I was looking forward to getting in on the ground floor of a good, engrossing series. Sadly, FlashForward looks more like it will have to provide unintended laughs instead…
I don’t disagree with you that this show is moving into Prison Break-implausability territory, but is the lesbian agent in the closet? I didn’t get the impression she necessarily was. I did think her date was going to be some kind of sinister, though. Looks like I was probably wrong about that.
I say she lives, but her brush with mortality makes her decide she wants to have a child and she gets a sperm donor.
Her date asked her straight up if she was in the closet, and she says yes, that the Federal Govt. dosent trust “gays with guns”…
Two min. later, they are making out in the middle of a very well lit public restaurant.
It just seems that this show is a slow reveal of everyone’s flash forward, then an even slower reveal of how all the visions will come true on April 29, 2010. The only thing I’m certain of at this point is that the global blackout had nothing to do with aliens or China since those two theories were offered as possible explanations in the Senate hearing in tonight’s episode.
I know how the gay agent gets pregnant. During the firefight, the bullet grazed through the testicles of a bystander somewhere offscreen. A chunk of his testicle must’ve stuck to the bullet and when it pierced her abdomen, it lodged itself in her womb, thereby…
whispers
What?
more whispers
Uh huh. I see.
ahem It seems I’ve made an error of plausibility. Apparently the MythBusters already busted thus myth. My sincere apologies.
Carry on.
Prison Break is what keeps coming to my mind as I watch this show as well, but that could be because the lesbian agent reminds me of Robin Tunney a bit.
A few thoughts:
Who gets ultrasounds at 10:00 at night?
Who texted Dr. Mom about Agent Shakespeare’s drunken FF? The obvious choices is the now pissed off director, or his AA sponsor. I’m thinking it was the sponsor.
Am I correct in thinking the FBI director got pissed at Agt. Shakespeare because he turned down the president’s cushy cabinet offer (and further blackmailed him) only to find out he was drinking on the job? When he told him he was drinking in his FF, the director looked like someone ripped his nuts off.
Just how in the hell did they get out of that car so fast? One second, they’re getting riddled by machine gun fire, then next second they’re hit by an RPG. C’mon. I know this is science fiction, but they’re not wizards.
I did think the alarm clock crying “Wake Up!” and rolling around in her blood was a nice touch. Spirograph!
Do lesbians shoot the shit about girls they’d like to bang just like guys do? It seemed a little forced. I thought next they were gonna fist bump each other, grab their crotches, spit, then go watch some football. 
The bitchy chick on the panel (I forget her position in the gvm’t) said she was president in her FF. But we saw the current president’s own FF, and it appeared as if he was still president, getting woken up and called into action. Granted, there was nothing explicitly showing that he was still the president, but I’m wondering how such a thing could happen, short of resigning or impeachment. Sure, he’d still have SS detail, but would he still be called on in a crisis if he was booted out of the presidency?
It was weird seeing Navi Rawat, who portrays Amita on Numb3rs in a role on this show. She’s a main character on numb3rs and I was like what the hell is Amita doing on this show?
The secret service guy busted into his room and addressed him as “Mr. President”. I don’t know how it works ex-presidents, but I don’t think they retain the “Mr. President” title.
I’m still with the show and I think this was the first episode where we’re shown (or at least told about) FFs in multiple different futures. It would also explain why Benford’s FF is so based on the FF while everyone else’s has been so mundane.
I can’t stand her deep, monotone voice and her terrible acting. Who keeps casting her?
Yes, I believe ex-presidents do retain the title.
Can you elaborate a little more on your 2nd paragraph?
I’m putting $10 in the “teach mankind a lesson about what the future could be” pot. And an extra $5 on another FF to come that doesn’t affect everyone.
Yes, it’s terribly implausible. So is the level of care provided by the doctors of Seattle Grace Hospital (I want a job where I get to wear comfy scrubs and get paid big bucks to do not much but fuck in the on call room. Oh wait, they’re called prostitutes…). But it’s fun. Plus it’s really cool watching Harold grow up and become “The Man” - the scene where he confronts the future customs agent was great!
I was pretty amused to be in a situation where I found myself surprised to see a white president.
I wish they would just bite the bullet and show us definitively that the future can be changed. Because, obviously it can - it’s pretty easy to irrevocably change some trivial element of almost all of the flash forwards. So it’s silly to tie up dramatic tension in that concept. Having the flashforwards be preventable doesn’t make them meaningless though. Even if you can change the ultimate outcome of your most likely future, the various elements of and reasons for that more likely outcome still exist and have meaning beyond how they happen to converge in one possible scenario.
[QUOTE=tr0psn4j And can’t they think of something less stupid to call those damn things?[/QUOTE]
It seems the most obvious and straightforward thing to call them. Why do you find it objectionable? What would you prefer to call them?
Is this something from the preview for next week? Why do you think it will go unnoticed?
I didn’t get this. Unlike the military, the FBI and CIA both allow gays to serve openly.
Was anyone else thinking, when she got shot, of that old myth about the Civil War soldier who got shot through the balls, the bullet lodging in a nurse, somehow impregnating her?
Ah, thanks. Missed that part of the conversation.
I wasnt aware about the policy re gay agents serving in the FBI/CIA these days, but I know that during the cold war era, several undercover agents were the targets of blackmail (for classified information or to become double agents) because the Soviets had evidence showing that the FBI or CIA agent was secretly homosexual…
If the FBI allows openly gay agents now, I wonder why they included the dialogue that I mentioned in my other posts?