BTW, Dr. Laura is a Jew, the OP quoted Old Testament, which relates to Judaism. So you make perjorative remarks about Christians, who are under a new covenant???
You are a Euro-trash moron.
Daniel:
First of all, thank you for your kind words 
Secondly, don’t most religions do that anyway? Please correct me if I’m wrong, but according to Christianity, aren’t there dire punishments awaiting me after my death becuase I don’t believe Jesus died for my sins?
Zev Steinhardt
(the Pagan whistles quietly to himself in the corner)
Danielinthewolvesden said:
Given this to be true (which I actually would not, at least not in all cases), why do we judge men of today by the norms of the past?
Zev: if you go strictly by the Gospels, it is unclear. Apparently, if you follow a virtuous Jewish life, and obey the Law, yes, you are still under the Covenant. But, you could take the “easy way” and just accept JC. Gentiles have no choice. Other sections can be quoted to say that ONLY thru JC are you saved. If these are NOT contradicting each other, is seems like that applies to gentiles. Heathens are OK, IF they are 'virtuous", AND have not heard the “Word”. It is unclear, tho, what happens to them; Dante, based upon Catholic dogma, said they went to a circle of Hell with no punishment, really a ‘nice’ spot.
And the Celtic Christian Church, whose precepts I follow loosely, accepts other religons, but believes belief in JC is the best & easiest way. (“Other good religions are not wrong, but ours is the best & easy way to salvation”). They even accepted occ worship of Pagan gods, as long as you put G-D & JC 1st (“Thou shalt not have any Gods before Me”). Many Christians would say I am not a “Christian.”
Marvel wrote:
Hey, I didn’t say I liked the guy or agreed with his tactics, I’m just saying I can see where he’s coming from, misguided or not. The guy needs help.
Esprix
Prejudice against Christian cocksuckers! I am against it!!
Why, some of my best friends…
Please keep in mind: an oral compulsion can be a very endearing characteristic.
Just out of curiosity…anything in the Laws opposed to muffdiving? No furburger on the Sabbath?
And a special note to Esprix: OK, pal. Enough’s enough.
You’re here, you’re queer. I got over it. Now its your turn.
eluc: to my meager knowledge, that is OK, but NOT during THAT time. No “red wings” for Jewish bikers.
My favorite papal bull is the one that excommunicated all the locusts back in the Middle Ages.
matt_mcl wrote:
Care for a little company from a heretical UU? 
Esprix
elucidator wrote:
Mine, too.
Hoo, boy, you can say that again!
I’m so very, very happy for you. Please feel free to go fuck yourself at your earliest convenience, and have a very pleasurable time doing so. Thanks!
Esprix
For Icerigger: Here’s the Straight Dope concerning “Moses and the Midianites.”
It wasn’t Moses.
It wasn’t the Midianites.
Here’s the story. (And it’s a long one, so you might want to pull up a chair.)
The time is Old Testament times, say maybe 150 years after Moses has died. The Children of Israel, under Joshua’s leadership, have moved into the Promised Land. Joshua in turn has passed on to his reward. Israel is governed by judges. Samson has come, and gone.
We pick up the story in Judges 19. “In those days Israel had no king…”
There was a certain Levite staying in the remote part of the hill country of Ephraim, who took a concubine for himself from Bethlehem in Judah. But she cheated on him, and she eventually packed up and went home to her father in Bethlehem. After she’d been there about four months, the Levite went to get her back (it says “he went to speak tenderly to her”, so evidently he was still in love with her). Also, the Bible refers to him as her “husband” and calls her father the “father-in-law”, so apparently it was a legal, committed relationship.
The Levite and the girl’s father hit it off, and he stayed there for three days, eating and drinking. On the fourth day, the Levite got ready to go, but the father-in-law said, “No, no, you can’t go yet, stay another day.” So he did. On the fifth day, again he got ready to go, but again his father-in-law said, “We wouldn’t think of allowing you to go so soon. At least stay for lunch.” So he stayed until the afternoon, but finally managed to get out of there during the afternoon.
He and his concubine and his manservant made it as far as Jebus, which was of course the home of the Jebusites, who were not Jews and who were considered enemies of Israel. It was getting dark, so the servant said, “Let’s stay here in Jebus,” but the Levite said, “No, they’re foreigners. Let’s go on to Gibeah and stay there.” So on they went to the city of Gibeah, which belonged to the tribe of Benjamin, but since nobody invited them into their home, they had to sit there in the city square. After a while, along came an old man, a resident of the town. What a surprise! He’s originally from the hills of Ephraim, too. He invited the Levite and his group home to stay with him.
Now enter the Bad Guys. A group of “worthless fellows” came pounding on the old man’s door and demanded that he send out the traveler so they could have sex with him. The old man went outside to them and said, “No, he’s my guest. Here’s my virgin daughter and my guest’s concubine–have fun.” Apparently the Levite slept through the entire thing, because the next morning, when he opened his door, he found his raped-to-death concubine lying there on the threshold. (The Bible does not record what happened to the virgin daughter.)
He took her body home and cut it up into 12 pieces, and sent one piece to each tribe of Israel. All the Israelites assembled in Mizpah, 400,000 soldiers all together, and demanded that the Benjamites surrender the men of Gibeah who had done this thing. For reasons which remain obscure, the Benjamites refused. Then there was an ugly civil war, which ended not only with tremendous casualties among the Benjamites, but also with all the other tribes swearing a solemn oath never to give any of their daughters to any Benjamite in marriage.
Then, of course, they realized, “Ooops! Where are the now sadly-decimated Benjamites supposed to get wives? We’re going to have an entire tribe missing.” They looked around and realized that nobody from Jabesh Gilead had showed up for the big assembly to declare war on the Benjamites. So they all went down to Jabesh Gilead, killed all the males and every woman who wasn’t a virgin, and gave all the virgins to the Benjamites as wives.
However, there weren’t quite enough to go around, so they said, “Look, when the folks over in Shiloh have their Festival of the Lord, you boys without wives go hide in the vineyards, and when the girls come down to dance, jump out and grab one. If their relatives complain, we’ll just tell them, ‘Hey, you’re helping out the Benjamites here. You don’t want an entire tribe to disappear, do you?’”
The Book of Judges closes with the understatement of the year: “In those days Israel had no king; everyone did as he saw fit.”
First of all, thanks to Duck Duck Goose and to Danielinthewolvesden for bringing us all up to speed on the holy tomes. I especially enjoyed DDG’s breakdown of “the days when Isreal had no king.”
Esprix - I hope I didn’t sound like I was pissed at YOU - I’m pissed at Phelps and people like him. I kinda gathered from your posts on the Dr. Laura thread that you didn’t agree with the guy but I disagree that his heart is anywhere NEAR the right place. Something tells me he would be a major homophobe whether he was brought up Christian or not. I just get cheessed-off when people use religion to justify mistreatment of their fellow human being, as he does.
My $.02
Patty
Thank you, marvel, it is nice to be recognized, even if my knowledge is not up to some of out great Talmudic Scholars, here. (And that “title” is certainly OK, even if “rabbi” is marginal. And I mean, you- CMK,Zev,CKD, and others, I stand in awe, at times. Hell, for a Goy, I’m not bad, but…)
Sorry, Dude! I just reread your post - okay, so basically your saying you’ve got a handle on things from HIS point of view, no matter how much you disagree with it. Gotcha. Sorry I wasn’t clearer on it the firs time round.
So how many hits has the Dr. LLaura thread gotten so far? And how does one go about nominating a thread for Threadspotting?
Patty
Not sure how many hits it’s gotten, but it’s hardly the only “Dr.” Laura thread on the SDMB. And you can nominate threads for threadspotting in the so-titled thread in About This Message Board.
Esprix