Jesus freaks really get on my nerves

No, I don’t hate Jesus, I don’t hate religious people…some of my best friends are quite religious.

I have nothing against religion as a whole (personally, I don’t believe in anything).

BUT, why do some people have to constantly be IN YOUR FACE about it?

Have you ever thought about X religion? It’s so much better than Y religion that you’re a part of.

Your going to hell, you shouldn’t do this, shouldn’t do that.

Is anyone else sick of this kind of bullshit? If I wanted a religion I’d have one.

So take your holy-er-than-thou ass and leave me the hell alone.

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I forget where I heard this from, but everyone goes to hell.
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[li]No religion is wrong.[/li][li]There is more than one religion that proclaims that if you do not follow it, you will go to hell.[/li][li]No on can be a member of more than one religion.[/li][/ul]

Therefore, everyone goes to hell.

Woodthrush, it is from the famous Hell: Endothermic or Exothermic? test answer. It is a classic humor piece that makes the rounds every other year or so along with the barometer test story. (Note that snopes gives one of the shorter versions of the barometer story. The one in The Teaching of Elementary Science Mathmatics is longer if I recall correctly. I’ve also seen it in one of a coworkers physics books by the same writer I believe.)

Seems to be a curse…Jimmy Carter had Billy, George Bush had his S&L robbing offspring, the Kennedys have Ed, and Jesus has Jerry Fallwell and Pat Robertson. I guess the bigger you are, the sleazier the remora that cling to you.

It’s difficult trying to follow Christ while being downright embarrassed by those that claim to be on the same path. It seems like the people that do the most damage to you always do so in the name of the one they profess to follow. My grandfather inherited a small ring from his sister when she died. It wasn’t worth a huge amount of money, but he was happy to have received it, nonetheless. He got a letter from another of his siblings, enraged with jealousy, which told him he was going to hell if he didn’t give her that ring so she could “sell it and give the money to the church” (yeah, right). He died shortly after; I don’t know if someone could die of a broken heart, but if they could, that letter certainly hastened his death.

Unfortunately, when someone claims to follow Christ, manny don’t stop being the same judgemental, selfish, self-righteous jerks they have always been. At least most don’t change immediately. Maybe someday, an epiphany arrives and they exclaim “What was I thinking???”. Many just seem to think that it gives them and their egos the power to judge and condemn in the name of God. That’s a dangerous assumption.

Classic example.

Thanks.

Think what you think. Listen to what other people think, because you might just learn something, BUT don’t let anyone tell you you are wrong. YOU have the right to believe what you want.

I am quite open to reason. IT’s the ‘freak’ part that bugs me.

In your face, holier than thou really bugs me.

But just as you are entitled to your opinion, so are they. NAd why are you so bitter against these people? In thier minds they are enlightening us and helping us find our ways to heaven. They believe they are helping us. I am not saying they are, but it is what they think, right?

I don’t mind people saying: “excuse me sir…but have you ever thought about x…etc”

Not: “Burn in hell heathen(SP?)”

I can see that. But, are you not saying they are wrong just as they are saying you are wrong??

I do wish the preaching would stop but it never bothers me. In fact back in college I used to love to get into these “debates” (I quoted debates because I don’t think my opposition saw them as such). But the reason I was posting was because I got a clever email the other day and figured I’d share it, and there seems to be a decent number of people on this thread who would appreciate it. Here it is:

Dear Dr. Laura,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s law. I have learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how best to follow them.

When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. How should I deal with this?

I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as it suggests in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

Lev. 25:44 states that I may buy slaves from the nations that are around us.
A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans but not Canadians. Can you clarify?

I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 10:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this?

Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.
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Yes, you have a valid point. I am staring a discussion, it worked you and I are discussing things in a civil manner. All is well.

I like the irony of this thread a calm discussion about Jesus freaks.
Moe: Dammit, My hat goes off to ya’. :smiley:

That’s almost as good as the cybersex thread a few weeks back.

Moe, that was quite possibly one the funniest threads I’ve read sense I began the Dope eight months ago

Thanks for the humor!

That’s at least the fourth time I’ve seen that Dr. Laura letter posted on this website.

Esprix

For those that enjoyed it, glad you enjoyed.

Esprix, sorry about the repetition. I figured it probably had to be around the board somewhere(we are a hip bunch, no?), but I thought it was worth the extra exposure.

When the bible thumpers used to come knock on my door, I would dig out some tracts I had gotten from the American Atheist Society and offer to read theirs if they would read mine.
Invariably they would decline, and I would tell them that if they couldn’t read mine, I couldn’t read theirs.
Not quite as good as my ex-brother-in-law who would make a point of answering the door to the thumpers in the nude, but it worked.

I’m waiting to use a friend’s plan. When the bible thumpers came to his door (he works nights, and yes they woke him up), he invited them in but insisted that the youngest woman had to be topless.

I’ve had luck claiming to be a Secular Buddhist and arguing that their door to door BS is a materialistic grab for souls, or whatever, but it why should I use all those words just to tell them to get the hell off my stoop?

And Moe, I’m saving that one for the next time my cousin sends a PRAYER ALERT for kids who can’t pray at school.

Pizzle Boy, FWIW, I consider myself to be somewhat religious, but religion is a personal matter. I never heard God ask me to do the used car salesman bit on everyone that I meet!

::knock knock::

Hi, do you have a moment? I’d like to describe how we can help you be more blessed. Would you be interested in that? I’m not trying to convert you to my religion, but part of my religion is to testify for the Lord. Would you allow me to do that for a little while?

I would like to share my love for Christ and all of humanity with you. Sometimes we forget the great gift that we’ve received and discussing it with others reminds us of how much we really have and how lucky we are. I won’t take up too much of your time. Are you familiar with the Mormons? Do you have any questions about them?

Well, we’ve just built a new tabernacle in this area, and I’d like to invite you to attend our services–no obligation, of course. Here is a brochure in case you have some free time. Can I write down your name and address so that we won’t bother you again too soon? Thanks, Mr. Pizzle.

Thank you, but I am the product of the modern catholic system. Therefor I am etternaly scarred, and could never possibly ::kneels:: be expected to ::stands:: take any form of organized ::thinks of many reason why Pizzle Boy’s going to hell:: again.

But thank you for your civility in this manner. Please take me off of you phone/mail/email/visit list, so as to not bother me in my place of privacy and compfort.

Problem is, Moe, the same letter has actually been debunked in several other threads as well (i.e., the things it asks for are easily answered, so it’s really no “biblical challenge” for the good doctor at all). Don’t get me wrong - I dislike her and enjoyed the letter, too, but 4 times is 3 too many.

2nd law, I like that plan. I’ll get some UU literature handy for when they come over. Better yet, I’ll give them some SCA or pro-gay literature - that oughta hold 'em! :smiley:

Esprix