Food Nazis Jess, calm kiwi, yosemite and even sven ... front and center

Gee, Dio, I’m somewhat in your camp, but could you sometimes please try to turn down the vitriol gauge and test using a more soft spoken argument. This trainwreck would probably have been three pages shorter.

I’m a foodie. But I’m also an only child and I was a very spoiled brat. Not with money or toys or other material stuff. But with attention and getting my way. And I remember when my parents had fish for dinner, I’d get away with them frying up some hot dogs for me.

The thing is, many of the things us foodies (never heard the term before this thread) enjoy, are indeed acquired tastes. I used to hate claret when I was in my early 20’s and only had white wine. Now, I don’t even have white wine with fish. I prefer red. I stumbled onto spinach when I was well into my 30’s, prepared in a much better way than the torture my mother put it through. Being Swedish and a foodie, I get frowned upon, because I still don’t really like pickled herring, which is a staple dish at a Christmas here. I’ll eat one or two small pieces for show and then politely move on to something else. It almosts makes me gag.

What I’m getting at is that small kids seldom enjoy very spiccy food, nor fermented stuff, strong pickled flavor ASF. Most baby food is pretty bland. I think I was 15 before I even dared tried an aged cheese. When I was a kid and my parents offered me some kind of blue cheese, I remember declining, because “that stuff tastes like dad’s feet smell”. A kid growing up, especially one with parents that spoil the kid or are picky themselves, will not learn to appreciate other food stuff. I could go on like even sven and say that these people are missing out on a lot of stuff, but it’s their own choice and I’ll not live longer, be more prosperous or be happier if they try to eat something they don’t like.

Back to Dio’s point. I can only judge by myself and people I know* and I do think people who’re picky about their food are spoiled. And it does go back to childhood. Then again, it’s not as if it’s creating a big disturbance in the fabric of the cosmos, so I just let it ride. I don’t feel sorry for them, I don’t try to force them into anything, it’s just not important.
*Like Fred, who every morning has four sandwiches: Wonder bread, cream cheese and cocoa puffs. He’l never eat anything with a bone in it, not a pork chop, not a drum stick, no fish. And he makes his spaghetti sauce from ground pork and ketchup. I used to tease him, and yes, I was being a jerk about it, when I was younger. Now I can’t be bothered.

On preview: Does that include ärtsoppa, Priceguy?

I don’t want to give the wrong impression about my pickiness. It’s not about blandness. I love spicy stuff…the way supervenusfreak makes chili is way too mellow for me. I like Mexican. I like aged, extremely sharp cheeses. I love vinegar and jalapeno flavor. I like the flavor of sauerkraut and I’ll eat almost any meat cooked in the stuff. I like spicy Italian sauces and robust grated cheeses to put on them.

It’s not about making sure only a very proscribed wavelength of flavor goes into my mouth. It’s just about making sure I LIKE a flavor before I commit to a sit-down dinner with it. And, as my previous story notes, it’s quite often the other side in my life that makes the whole thing a big deal, not me.

I’ve noticed that. However, the original posters being pitted and many (though certainly not all) of the foodies have stated that their complaints were directed at the drama queen picky eaters, not the plain old picky eaters. So can’t the polite folks on both sides call a truce and just ignore the scattering of assholes that have decided to show themselves in the thread?

Ok I am reading but still at the bottom of page two. I’m still wondering how I made it into a pit thread about eating, given all the other shit I have spouted.

I stand by my point though. If you are in a resturant or your home eat whatever you want. If you are in someone elses home (providing it doesn’t collide with you religous or ethical beliefs) then eat what you are given and do so in in a way that makes your your host feel happy that they have fed you well.

There is still a place for manners. A place that matters. I will come and eat kidneys at your house and smile while eating them…you might like to stay away from the loo afterwards.

We all have aversions to certain foods. I loathe desert of any kind, but I will eat it to make a host happy.

I loathe offal…yet I love haggis. I only tried haggis to be polite.

If you are in someone elses home and don’t have a health or religous reason to turn down a meal then you are, a) rude and b) should never decide to travel.

OR health! Damn.

See, and here I always thought a generous host was someone who strived to please his guests. If he knew that something displeased a guest, he probably wouldn’t expect them to eat it. But then, my opinion probably doesn’t count for much in your eyes. After all, I’m a “world-class, self-absorbed pussy” for politely turning down food that disgusts me. Honestly, where do you come up with this shit?

It seems like some people (especially those who are really into cooking) take the food preferences of others as a sort of personal attack. Like, “I spent all day cooking this and you still don’t like it?! You ungrateful bastard!” Er, no. You might be able to make the best damn duck in the world, but I still think game tastes like shit. This does not reflect on your skills as a cook.

Okay, I’m going to say this slow, because your food-clogged brain apparently didn’t pick it up the first two dozen times that others said it. I. Just. Don’t. Care. About. Food. I consider eating to be a minor inconvenience that just happens to keep me alive. That’s just the way I am, and no matter how much assholes try to shoehorn me into changing, it ain’t gonna happen. And I’m fine with that. What the fuck are you going to do anyway? Sew the extra taste buds onto my tongue? Shock random parts of my brain until you find the gourmet food lobe?

That I don’t like (or don’t care to try) certain foods does not make me any worse than you, or any better. What does make me better is that I don’t run around foaming at the mouth and calling people pussies because their taste buds aren’t wired the same as mine.

Actually, I don’t consider myself a pickey eater. And I like to cook and experiment. I just don’t like seafood. Yes, it may have different flavors. Just like beef, pork, chicken.

But, it all has one overwhelming flavor that ruins the rest.

Imagine soaking a piece of beef, pork or chicken in bleach for 24 hours before cooking it.

Individuals?

Bingo.

I find it amusing that people are comparing food to art. Foodies indeed! I agree with neutron star.
If you can sit there and compare food with art, you must admit it is all subjective. Just because you think a composition works, doesn’t mean everyone else has to. Just because you eat something, doesn’t mean everyone else has to. If I sit there, and watch a movie you think is the pinnacle of movie making, and I don’t like it, does that make me a pussy?
If I try your famous lasagna, and I don’t like it for whatever reason, am I a pussy?
Damn, I can get passionate about some stuff… but if someone doesn’t like a certain FOOD, I don’t sit there and dispute it. Cripes, aren’t there more pressing issues then what the person next to you has on their plate?
If you want to know why I asked for “no whatever” then ask. Don’t sit there and act like a dipshit, thinking shitty thoughts about me. Fuck, how righteous can you get?

Person A: Omigod, look at the peon a few tables down. NO don’t LOOK look.
Person B: Oh. My. God. Ranch dressing. tee hee hee
Person A: And the Lobster Bisque? She didn’t touch it. God, I’m sad for her. Anyone over 12 can’t resist the bisque.
Person B: Deprived. She will never know the true meaning of Taste Adventure.
Person A: We, WE are taste explorers. God my life is exciting.
Person B: Agreed. Back to the office.
Waiter: TIP ME

Nobody runs around calling people pussies because of what they eat. This is a messageboard. The OP ripped comments out of context of people relating problems they have with picky eaters in their lives and decided to take them personally. This naturally instigated food lovers an opportunity candidly share their opinion of people who have an opposite attitude towards their passion. Have you ever had a complete stranger bully you on your food choices? I doubt it. If you somehow stumbled upon a social setting where an aquaintance tried to force food upon you, then that should be a sign that you’ve met up with the wrong person, not that he’s a jerk. Why eat together if you two have totally different attitudes towards dining? It’s like hating movies and going out to a film with movie buffs. They’re going to hate you for not wanting to talk about it afterwards and you’re going to hate them for trying to force to have an opinion on it.

‘Food Slut’, hehe! That’s me now even though I was picky as hell as a kid. I remember whining so badly to my Mom when I was about 10 that hamburgers should only be served on hamburger buns, not bread that she broke a broom handle over my head she was so pissed! And if you knew my mom this wasn’t her nature at all.

Now I eat most things, and will try the majority of items at least once, but some things I won’t touch.
I love bananas as long as they don’t have bruises on them. I’ll cut off the bruises if there are a few of them, but if there are too many, in the garbage it goes. My wife wanted me to eat her banana bread shortly after we were married. She was pissed when I wouldn’t. I said I’d eat the bread if she would eat what gooey, slimey cooked bananas reminded me of. I said I’d find a nice slug in the garden and if she’d eat that I’d eat her bread. I’ve never eaten the bread yet.

I like apples. Apple juice smells like urine to me. Most alcohol smells the same and tastes worse. So, I don’t drink anything alcoholic.

I work in the middle east. I went to a goat pull with my staff. I found I love the spices they make the rice with here. But the goat? I wasn’t to thrilled with the whole cooked goat being pulled apart in front of me, but I tried it and it was quite tasty. The spices were amazing and everything was fine until I tried a piece of meat without the spice. I almost puked. It reminded me of the time I had to butcher a wild rabbit on a survival course 20 years earlier. I had to live with that smell on my hands all night. I can’t stand to taste, or smell, gamey meat. Horrid.

Okay, I was queasy after my goat experience and that guy at the end of the table splitting the skull open wasn’t helping much, but the soup should be safe…shouldn’t it? I happened to look into the tray they were getting the soup out of… … [Jim Carrey]<Erp>[/Jim Carrey] … Imagine the innards of the goat. Not just the heart, lungs, liver, etc, but all of it…Everything, all boiled together. I’m sure they cleaned out the stomach and intestines, didnt’ they? But why is the soup the colour of what I think half digested grass would look like?.. Even though I love my guys, I have told them never, NEVER, to invite me to a goat grab again. They seem to understand and laugh at me when ever it is brought up.
I just have a weak stomach about some things. I can’t watch children eat things for the most part, either. Disgusting. Makes me gag.

I can be a real asshat about what people eat. Sometimes I can be the Asshat King. I’m sitting at the table across from some guy eating what I can only describe as something similar to pig slop only more finely ground and reddish brown in colour. So this guy is shovelling this shit into his mouth as if it is manna from heaven even though it looks more like the stuff the proverbial pig is rolling in and I say, “Uh, excuse me…You know that is going to look the same when it comes out the other end, don’t you?”. He shrugs and resumes shovelling. Some people are just odd. :smiley:

Several posters have stated that they were forced to try certain foods as a child and cannot to this day, choke them down. Spoiled? Not likely! I clearly remember being forced to eat a plum at the dinner table and vomitting all over the table right after(I was 8 and had sat at the table for 3 hours in a control battle with my father I have never forced my kids to eat anything like he did; and hey, they all like plums!). Haven’t had another plum to this day–and this “pussy” isn’t going to.

Why does that bother anyone? Why do you even care what I put in my mouth? I don’t badger all of you to read Jane Austen and listen to Sally Fingerette, do I? I like good food, I don’t like pretentious, fussy food. Shut up already about your hand cranked pasta etc–the snobbery is nauseating.

I do not understand the psycho-analyzing, condemnation, or insults in this thread. Yes, manners are important and one should be polite. But foodies need to take my “no, thank you” for what it is and move on. I promise not (and never have) to express horror at your actually liking gazpacho.

So you don’t ‘bully’ anyone, you just pass judgement because someone is different than you.

I have a low opinion of people that would judge me for something as simple as my preference in foods.

“outrageous rationalizations” “childish” Thanks for telling me what I like and don’t like. What’s my favorite color?

Shagnasty said,"Picky eaters are a bunch of world-class, self-absorbed, pussies unless they are actually allergic to something. You don’t have to like everything. "
the two of you are quite a pair. Look to Uzi for his self proclaimed “asshat-ness” for berating a complete stranger on his choice of entree.

I’ve known my MIL for almost 30 years and she hasn’t let up yet on my food choices. Her dinner is not a success because although I ate her limp aspargus, her dried out lamb, her sticky mashed potatoes, I balked at the egg and beet number (some Polish dish). Well, too bad. I have two points: one is that “foodies” need to give the vitriol a rest, and two is that even BAD cooks can make anyone more discriminating than a garbage disposal look like a jerk. But guess what–my “no thank you” tops her (or your) “just a taste! What is the matter with you? One bite won’t hurt! Don’t be such a baby!” and on and on and on…

Frankly, to me, anyone who feels the need to comment on any of the eating habits of those at table are just plain rude. The SOLE exception is parents/adults in charge attempting to instill some manners into children. It comes down to basic respect and civility.

I’m a picky eater who can see both sides of this issue. Yes, there many things I can’t or prefer not to eat. I cannot eat onions. If you’d care to hear the food poisoning story that explains my reasons why I cannot eat onions, please let me know.

Most of the reasons I don’t like to eat certain foods have to do with textures and smells. I can’t stand the smell of mayonnaise, for example, so I don’t eat foods that have mayonnaise in them. I can’t stand the texture of hamburger, so I don’t eat that either. (Well, actually I’m getting better there. I can eat finely ground hamburger on things such as a taco or in a casserole now. But I doubt I’ll ever be able to order a hamburger.) I also have issues with eating something if I don’t know what’s in it. “Mystery food” scares the shit out of me. So yes, I’m picky. But if something is put in front of me, I eat what I can and say nothing. I’d never ask someone to make me something else or go somewhere else to eat. I am willing to try new things (as long as they don’t contain onions or mayonnaise).

It’s not fun to listen to someone whine about not liking something. A few weeks ago my husband and I were at a bar with my friend and her brother (who’s in his 30s and should know better). My husband and I ordered a couple of pizzas to share with everyone. When they arrived we sprinkled parmesan cheese on the first one. Her brother kept going on and on about how he couldn’t stand it and parmesan smelled like vomit. We decided to leave the parmesan off the second pizza so he would eat some. Did he appreciate it? No. He just kept talking about how parmesan smelled like vomit. All this while we’re trying to eat our pizza. Finally I told him that yes, I’d heard him the first 15 times, and that I was about two seconds away from kicking him in the nuts so hard he’d find out what vomit really smelled like. So yeah, those people aren’t fun to deal with either.

But please don’t harrass me about what I eat. If I want to order a grilled cheese, what’s so wrong with that? It’s on the fucking menu, so the owners of the cafe must think it’s okay for me to have one. I don’t care if you think green eggs and ham is the greatest dish ever. If you love it so much, eat it and shut the fuck up! Why can’t you just understand that I do not like green eggs and ham, I do not like them you fucking prick! :wink:

I can eat it if I have to, but I don’t like it. As a kid, I couldn’t swallow so much as a spoonful of it. These days it goes down, but that’s it.

Fine, take I take back “have a low opinion of” and replace it with “have a hard time dealing with”. But the low opinion remains for those who make up “allergies” and other BS to rationalize their high-maintenance dining lifestyle. And what’s the extent of passing judgement on people different than me other than just plain knowing who I can’t have a social relationship with? Am I supposed to get along with everyone? What am I going to do with someone who’s afraid of olives? Dining isn’t some esoteric hobby I perform in my basement whenever I have free time - I do it everyday, and I like to take it seriously. If someone has exact opposite attitude, i.e. not nuetral, i.e. “Pumpernickel? Eww, what is that?! No, I don’t want that” instead of “Pumpernickel {shrug} Ok. I guess”, then we’re not going to work out. Is that a bad thing?

Well, isn’t it kind of shallow to base a relationship on food dislikes? Maybe the person who hates pumpernickel bread writes amazing poetry about you or mixes a mean martini or can change the oil with lightening speed.

IOW, we all have personal tastes and IMO, one should not be judged and found wanting on being risk averse in the food department alone. Obviously, you feel differently. OK.

For his unfamiliar choice of entree. I think that falls on the picky eater side of this argument. In fact, why would a “food slut” ever be moved to comment negatively on a complete stranger’s meal when all dishes would be palatable to him?

uzi said:

This is just plain rude and refutes your statement earlier that foodies didn’t go around berating people for the food choices. For all I know, Uzi is the nicest guy in the world–but even he states that he was an asshat in this situation. that was my point. If I were to pass your table and see that you were eating say, deviled eggs–I would not say a word, even though I think they are horrible.

All this talk of food has put me off lunch–maybe there is a diet plan in here somewhere! The avoid-eating-because-you’ve-ben-arguing-about-food-for-two-days diet…I can smell the money! :slight_smile:

Good for you. I envy you … I wish I could do that. Seriously. Unfortuantely, some of us can’t control our gag reflexes. What is the deal with the “suck it up, be a man and swallow?” attitude, anyhow? Seriously, would you be doing the same thing to a vegetarian or Orthodox Jew? Why are YOU so offended because I can’t swallow some types of food? Why does it make me less of a man? I can’t swallow fucking hardboiled eggs; guess I only have a three inch dick, then. What the fuck?

Let’s do this … you apparently can tolerate a wide variety of food, so I would imagine that would extend to literature as well. Tell you what … here’s a copy of a novel by Karel Čapek, in its original Czech. Why don’t you read that? I don’t want to hear it’s impossible. You don’t know Czech? You don’t have the balls or brainpower to read and understand Czech literature the way the author intended Fucking cowboy up and grow a pair, for crying out loud. A strange language isn’t going to give you hives. Pussy. You’re probably racist, too, since you’re rejecting Czech culture. Stick to your library of Highlights magazines and Richard Scarry books, then, you little baby.

See, you can’t read Czech (or so I assume). It’s impossible for you to do so. Same thing with some of the “pickies” - we just can’t eat certain types of food. It’s impossible. I have no reason to be offended because you can’t read Czech, Xhosa, Church Slovenian or Navaho. Why you you think I’m a “pussy” because I can’t eat fucking hard-boiled eggs or mushrooms?

Is your name Jennifer? I had a girlfriend that cited my picky eating, and how it was an act of BIGOTRY, when she broke up with me. You shee, she wasn’t just a foodie, but turned out to be a Thirld World Foodie; she had a preference for food from developing nations. Because I couldn’t eat everything from the menu of a Tibetan, Guatemalan or Syrian restaurant, I was shunning those cultures entirely, and therefore racist.

No, I didn’t make a big deal out of the fact that I couldn’t eat much at those places. I usually found somethig I could eat. She got upset because she would constantly make suggestions, and I’d have to retort with “no, I can’t eat that” repeatedly. “Ohhh, the phing alla is really good … why don’t you have that? What about the tsel tofu?”

Bigoted? Are you completely serious?