then I would agree with you, but hey do contain truths that no man in that day could have known, such as details of the constellation orion. There are many things these ancient people knew that could have only been observed through a powerful telescope, or someone telling them about it. Spend a lifetime studying ancient peoples and knowledge acquired by them and you will be astonished at the things they knew long before we did. Such as gold plating, which can only be done with electricity. To assume that collaberating stories that contains real scientific fact is not true would be absurd. Scientific thoery is based on collaberating facts, some proven and some unproven, but we bet our futures on it. Such as electrical theory for example.We have the math to prove it, we even use it, but that is all we know about it. Because we are able to use it people assume we know all about it, yet no one can tell you where it comes from or how it actually works; see bump theory versus flow theory.No one cares because the lights come on, the motors turn, and the computers compute. So, I regress to the original post, yes I believe the other God’s exist.Why? because the ten commandements, said to be handed to moses by God himself states. Thou shalt have no other God’s before me, for i am a jealous God. God himself accepts the existence of other God’s and states in many other scriptures that he is the God of God’s and the one true God. That, I believe as well. Very few prophets truley existed, many claim to be, but fall short of being worthy, such as Paul. Paul was an angry man, he ranted in speeches, ranted in letters from prison and I know how God feels about man and his anger, so for me, Paul is out of the prophet ranks.
I hereby propose the “Really Big Telescope” religious authority. We shall hold that one day the RBT (as it shall heretofore be named in religious texts) miraculously appeared, was used to divine knowledge of Orion, and then vanished, leaving no evidence of its existence.
And even better! We actually have physical evidence that RBTs can exist, because we’ve built some now, something we can’t say for gods or for aliens.
What society or culture knew “details” of the constellation Orion that could not have been observed by the unaided human eye?
What were the details?
Who were the people?
What document provides this information?
Everyone else stopped reading at the Orion nonsense, but I assure you that we understand a lot more about electricity and electronics than just the math. You may not understand, but EEs do. I assure you that semiconductors work because we understand the physics, not because we got lucky.
I believe that God is infinite. Everything is everything. From both a scientific and spiritual perspective. I believe that the combination of everyone’s beliefs and everyone’s personal universes make up the whole of reality that we know. I am not religious but I am definitely spiritual. (This is my perspective so you know where I’m coming from).
I’m not sure if you meant this post to be directed to those who don’t follow a particular religion? But based on my belief I think that God(s) of other religions are just as real as my belief in God. It is all a part of everything, which is God. I would say that all the Gods of other religions are correct ways of viewing God in the way that humans can perceive God in the culture/environment/life that the individual is experiencing.
There are so many people who are spiritual and would love to find a spiritual home and don’t accept a blind physical universe as all there is but who just can’t stomach the church nonsense.
where the electrons come from that makes up an electron flow, it is still unproven. Show one factual proof. It is all theory, only the math backs up it’s existence. I will always love throwing this scenario out there to see people answer about what they do not know. And yes, we understand the physics, but know absolutely zero about the origin of the electrons in an electron flow or bump, whichever it turns out to be, lmao.
Do you have any clue what the word “Theory” actually means, in the context of science?
This is a really good question. The challenge is to give an answer that is long enough to show I’ve given it some real thought but short enough to hold your attention. Existence is a pretty straightforward property (either you have it or you don’t); but identity is much more nuanced. To illustrate…
I think we could agree that the people who live and work with you have a much better opportunity to get to know the real you than those of us who only know you as Czarcasm. But that doesn’t mean Straight Dopers can’t know you at all; indeed, people who have been reading your posts for years could probably predict what you’d say in a given situation a lot better than the guy who just moved in next door.
But what if someone hacks into your account? Of course that wouldn’t be you. But what if you broke your arm and had one of your in-person friends do some of the typing for you? That would be you. But what if your friend adds some embellishments? Maybe he types something that you didn’t actually say but you do agree with it - is that still you?
Or suppose, a thousand years from now, scientists rediscover the lost SDMB archives; but the files are corrupted such that all of the posts are intact but all of the usernames have been lost. Obviously, that huge jumble of anonymous posts is not you. But suppose linguists do stylistic analysis and are able to isolate your posts from everyone else’s. That would be you, wouldn’t it? Even if they couldn’t attach a name to your writings? But what if the analysts included a few posts from someone else and/or omitted a few of your genuine posts - then what? How accurate would the canon have to be for readers to be considered followers of the One True Bob Smith (or whatever your real name happens to be)?
So I guess the short answer would be that I’m agnostic about the other gods.
See this:
http://www.qrg.northwestern.edu/projects/vss/docs/power/2-whats-electron-flow.html
The electrons come from the conductor itself.
Regarding “electron flow or bump”, the answer is in the above linked webpage also.
How about answering the questions in post 183?
theory by an Electrical engineer. He is unqualified and is demonstrating what he was taught which was assumed. The only qualified people to “prove” or disprove" the bump or flow theory would be a PHD in QED. EE’s are taught simplification. All they need to know is the theory and the math. It is simple speculation. Just like it is taught that the earth orbits the sun when in fact it does not. The sun is in motion and the earth is simply tagging along behind it going in a circle where the sun used to be. Oh and the info on ancient technology is from the Dogon tribe in Africa, the sumerians, the egyptians, and also pheonecians. I have already done the research, now it’s your turn. You’ll need to go to an ivey league school to get it, but good luck. For the electrical question, search in the QED field and you will find your answer. It is a trick I warn you, but all verifiable. Have fun.
Let’s not, and say we did.
That is not how it works.
You made a claim. Pretending that the information is “really” out there but that other posters have to find it for themselves is nothing but trolling. (Pretending that the information is only available at an Ivy League school is ludicrous.) If you have actual references to what you claim, provide them.
If you do not and you continue in this vein, you are liable to find your posting privileges removed.
This seriously looks like trolling where you admit that some “point” that you insist is a serious argument is based on a trick rather than a genuine piece of information.
This will not go well with you if you continue.
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Do you mean the ultimate origins of electrons when matter condensed from energy after the Big Bang? True, but irrelevant. If you mean the source of electrons for one particular current, not so true.
But also irrelevant. You don’t need to know all the detailed theory because you are testing the correctness of the understanding of those who do know the theory.
some designs a process and transistors based on a fundamental understanding. It gets simulated. The results are used to build rules for creating cells. A test chip is done to test some parts made with the new process against results predicted by the theory. When they match - which isn’t the first time it is tried - you build parts and you evaluate them against what is predicted.
Well over 100 parameters have to be in the expected range for a silicon wafer to go to the next step of having circuits put on it. To do that requires the kind of understanding you don’t seem to think possible. And it is a bit more sophisticated than Ohm’s Law, I can tell you that.
I had hoped this would turn into a cataloging of various deities around the world but it seems to be about electronics.
I was raised as a Reform Jew, and went to Sunday School every week. Once, when I was about 7-ish, we learned that Abraham was the first monotheist, the first person who believed in one God. I raised my hand and asked the teacher “What if Abraham was wrong? What if someday we discover that there really are more Gods?” The teacher replied that “Jews believe in only one God.” I was very dissatisfied with her response, and to this day nobody has ever answered my question.
Of course at that age, I was expecting an answer from the perspective of objective reality. Not just “what we believe” but “what is.” Why would anyone believe things that weren’t actually true? It wasn’t long before I realized that belief often has nothing to do with reality.
You worry about your gods and I worry about my gods.
And I was hoping that it would stay on topic about how believers feel about the existence of gods other than their own, and look what that got me.
Well as an atheist Buddhist I don’t have any gods, but I can talk about those that most Buddhists have, at least derived from Chinese gods – Buddhists don’t call them gods but Bodhisattva. Quan yin is far and away the most important and I must say I love her. She is a lot like Mary of Christianity in that people go to her for solace in time of grief and trouble and she is forgiving, non-judgmental, and very encouraging.