[QUOTE=sachertorte]
So is the game really going to end today? Closure, I need closure!
Um, when does the next game start? Impatient, I’m impatient!
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Well, the game ends today, and I have permission to start when this game has “run its course”. That means, I may be able to start it tomorrow, but more likely, it’ll have to wait until Monday or Tuesday next week while we finish up our post-game discussion.
[QUOTE=Millit the Frail]
See, I think Masons should get the same advantage as Mafia there. Fulfilling the Mason win conditions, from the beginning, seemed nigh on impossible, with only three of us. We started out at such a disadvantage, and we did so well, just by our sheer staying power! We should get something, just for coming so close.
I have read elsewhere, all over the internet, that Masons are usually allowed to talk at night. I’m not sure that would have helped us a lot, but it might have given us a shot. Any reason why this rule hasn’t been co-opted on the SDMB?
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This is actually something that I gave serious thought to allowing for the masons in the game I’ll be running, and while I really wanted to do it, I decided I’d rather have other, more interesting roles. Further, I’m not really sure how much it adds, because they all know who all the others are, so they can appropriately weight what people say based on that. The only thing it wouldn’t allow is a highly complex gambit but, as we’ve seen, even the mafia don’t really tend to get too complex because there’s so many things that can go wrong.
[QUOTE=NAF1138]
I sort of like the idea of the doc being a mason. It allows you to bulk up on the evil forces in the game because the docs and masons are SO much more powerful together than they would be apart. And, at least for me, the more evil forces in the game the more fun in is.
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I actually considered doing that as well, and it would have worked very well with the theme, but I also felt that it makes the Doctor WAY over-powered (unless he’s weaker, like in M4 where he can’t protect the same person twice in a row). For one, he has information, and two, no one can fake claim because he’ll have people that can back him up. In the case of how I wanted to implement the doctor, it would make his value perhaps greater than the detective’s.
Yeah, your game sounds like it will be pretty interesting and challenging, BM.
[QUOTE=Idle Thoughts]
Yeah, your game sounds like it will be pretty interesting and challenging, BM.
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Well, it’ll either be that, or a CF of propotions only hinted at by the Day Two disaster in M2. 
Time’s up, Gadarene! The deadline has been reached, and I see you’re online. For good or bad, Mafia 3 comes to an end now. What’ll it be?? What?? Tell us!!
Nooo! Damn you, Gad! Get back online! Give us closure, damnit!!
Of the 3 left, nesta is the only one not online. Could it be because he already knows the outcome and that he lost? I HOPE SO!!
I’m pathetic. 
GO MASONS!
Come on, Gad!
Probably off having a beer snickering at us…
Maybe Gadarene knew the losing side would put out a hit on him, so he headed for the hills?
For whoever is running the next Mafia game: Could you put me down on the list please? I’d love to try my hand at this! Thanks! 
[QUOTE=Clockwork Jackal]
For whoever is running the next Mafia game: Could you put me down on the list please? I’d love to try my hand at this! Thanks! 
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I’ll be running the next one, and I’ll probably be posting the start on Monday. I can’t reserve anymore spots because I already saved 10, but there’s still plenty of space left.
[QUOTE=Blaster Master]
I’ll be running the next one, and I’ll probably be posting the start on Monday. I can’t reserve anymore spots because I already saved 10, but there’s still plenty of space left.
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Ahhh so I have to be quick on the draw…errrr…post. OK, I’ll look for it Monday!
[QUOTE=Clockwork Jackal]
Ahhh so I have to be quick on the draw…errrr…post. OK, I’ll look for it Monday!
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I doubt it will fill up so quickly that anyone that’s really interested will miss it. I expect it will have 30 slots, so there’s still 20 slots available, and most of the “quick draw” people were the ones who got in when I openned reservations.
That said, I really do want to see some new people in it… if the same group of people plays in each one, it will get stale because we’ll all get too used to eachothers style.
This might be of interest to some: Mafia : A Theoretical Study Of Players and Coalitions in a Partial Information Environment
[QUOTE=Kyrie Eleison]
This might be of interest to some: Mafia : A Theoretical Study Of Players and Coalitions in a Partial Information Environment
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Oh boy! Lots of fun math. I’m definitely going to have to read that before I completely finalize the next mafia game.
[QUOTE=Blaster Master]
I doubt it will fill up so quickly that anyone that’s really interested will miss it. I expect it will have 30 slots, so there’s still 20 slots available, and most of the “quick draw” people were the ones who got in when I openned reservations.
That said, I really do want to see some new people in it… if the same group of people plays in each one, it will get stale because we’ll all get too used to eachothers style.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if it fills up very quickly. I know I’ve had a very entertaining time watching this game, and I would check the thread every night so see what had happened during the day.
[QUOTE=Clockwork Jackal]
I wouldn’t be surprised if it fills up very quickly. I know I’ve had a very entertaining time watching this game, and I would check the thread every night so see what had happened during the day.
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Hey, it’s Clockwork Jackal! You are a semi celebrity over at the pirates game, being the only non player to actually sign up for the board. You still watching that game? If you want access to Skelleton Island PM Idle Thoughts or Malacandra. That goes for all of you in here. It’s a good game, come watch.
So Gad, you opening up the mafia boards to us?
[QUOTE=Kyrie Eleison]
This might be of interest to some: Mafia : A Theoretical Study Of Players and Coalitions in a Partial Information Environment
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I read the paper. Impressive math, but way overkill for a simple problem. Random strategies with no detectives can be evaluated using dynamic programming- not nearly as messy at all. I can send you my spreadsheet if you like. No simulation or martingale analysis required. One thing I’d like to say is that the paper didn’t express the bi-modal nature of mafia. R(odd) and R(even) have independent analyses (assuming no doctor).
The analysis and conclusions for games with detectives were interesting, but were hinged on the assumption that *private *messages can be sent. As that is clearly not the case, the analysis doesn’t really apply here.
[QUOTE=NAF1138]
Hey, it’s Clockwork Jackal! You are a semi celebrity over at the pirates game, being the only non player to actually sign up for the board. You still watching that game? If you want access to Skelleton Island PM Idle Thoughts or Malacandra. That goes for all of you in here. It’s a good game, come watch.
So Gad, you opening up the mafia boards to us?
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Ha! A celebrity!
Oh, I signed up because I was hoping to sub in for someone, but twice someone else beat me to it!
I follow it occasionally, but at this point, I think too much has happened for me to catch up.
[QUOTE=Kyrie Eleison]
I investigated NAF1138 the first night. Diggit (at least I think it was Diggit without double checking) had it right – there was no breadcrumb, as NAF woke up dead the next morning. In retrospect, perhaps I should have breadcrumbed something anyway, but at the time, it didn’t occur to me to do so.
(snip)
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Yeah, it was me. tirial convinced me of her (wrong) idea, though (luckily for us). I had no read on fluiddruid as scum per se.