Looks like Diggit’s doing well at this point. I actually buy his latest post, and if I were in game, would definitely vote nesta.
So, Gadarene, if you’re reading:
If Cookies pops up and votes for nesta, will the Day end immediately due to the unanimous vote, or will there be a countdown of some sort, or will things go until Friday in any case?
Because if Cookies is scum, (s)he would probably jump to vote if it would end the Day instantly.
Which (s)he just did. (Jump in with a vote for nesta). This is exciting all of a sudden.
But wouldn’t she do the same thing if she were town? Diggit’s case for not being the recruit is pretty convincing. If she’s town, she also ought to jump at the chance to lock the lynch on nesta.
Hey, while you’re in here, can you spill the beans on what your breadcrumb was? It can’t possibly affect the game anymore.
I investigated NAF1138 the first night. Diggit (at least I think it was Diggit without double checking) had it right – there was no breadcrumb, as NAF woke up dead the next morning. In retrospect, perhaps I should have breadcrumbed something anyway, but at the time, it didn’t occur to me to do so.
The fluiddruid vote that everyone was talking about was two things: First, I was honestly suspicious of her, and honestly not suspicious of the two that were on the menu that day. Second, it was foreshadowing for the next day’s breadcrumb. I had chosen to investigate fluid; if she came up scummy, I would have reinforced the case as the breadcrumb for that day. If she were cleared, I would find her defense compelling and back down.
The anti-FOS of you was just what it appeared. A silly mistake on my part based on a misinterpretation of what you’d said.
Well, at least I feel vindicated in that respect, that the fluiddruid crumb was merely suspicious. I suppose in that aspect, it was good I wasn’t a townie, because I really wanted to tear into that logic. Oh well, live and learn.
I’m not sure I’m following you – what logic are you referring to?
I wanted to tear into the logic that said that fluiddruid was your breadcrumb. I was just a bit afraid to be THAT aggressive, because I knew that when she or I did eventually show up as scum, it would look bad. Instead, I was stuck with trying to come up with an alternate hypothesis… given the available data, I honestly think it was more legitimate, but it was still ultimately driven by an artificial confirmation bias.
Yeah, although it worked out best for the town, the lack of any sort of investigative result on day two had everyone grasping at straws. I think fluid said it best – that’s not a crumb, that’s a whole loaf!
While we’re chatting, perhaps you could satisfy my personal curiosity about something. In her long defense post on day two, fluid said that she’d voted for me twice, although she’d only voted once for me in the game thread. Did she actually conflate votes on two boards, and mistake a night-kill vote for a day vote, or was it an honest mistake? I suspect the latter, but, boy, was I ready to use it to make a case regardless if the investigation result came back positive.
Tick, tick, boom. Gadarene has started the countdown clock. Get your final bets down, people! Who will win - Mafia or Masons? (I think we’re agreed that the Citizen is screwed.)
Nope, the Mason have no shot at the win here.
nesta will almost certainly swing. Either she’s scum, leaving one townie and one Mason (giving the town a win – Masons would have to outnumber town for a Mason win), or she’s town, meaning the scum win.
Go town!!
Ah - I must have conflated the Mafia win condition ( N(scum) >= N(!scum) ) with the Mason win condition, which you describe as N(mason) > N(citizen).
Revised: Are they getting the scum for a town win? Or a miscall for a Mafia win?
It must have been a mistake, I don’t recall any talk about hitting you on Night One (but I can’t check at work since yahoogroups are blocked). However, if it makes you feel any better, she was the one who suggested and pushed for getting you killed on Night Two.
Not sure why Malacandra didn’t spread word further, but it seems the Hispaniola is in need of a substitute sailor. See his post here for details.
FTR, it looks like storyteller is subbing in.
So is the game really going to end today? Closure, I need closure!
Um, when does the next game start? Impatient, I’m impatient!
See, I think Masons should get the same advantage as Mafia there. Fulfilling the Mason win conditions, from the beginning, seemed nigh on impossible, with only three of us. We started out at such a disadvantage, and we did so well, just by our sheer staying power! We should get something, just for coming so close.
I have read elsewhere, all over the internet, that Masons are usually allowed to talk at night. I’m not sure that would have helped us a lot, but it might have given us a shot. Any reason why this rule hasn’t been co-opted on the SDMB?
Sometimes yes, sometimes no, I wouldn’t say usually. I didn’t use it in my game because it makes the mason block a lot more powerful, and the game gets a bit trickier to balance. I suspect RT did the same. Don’t want to speak for Gad. With Mal’s game (off board), if the masons could talk at night it would almost break the game, because one mason is also a doctor.
[Slightly OT]I sort of like the idea of the doc being a mason. It allows you to bulk up on the evil forces in the game because the docs and masons are SO much more powerful together than they would be apart. And, at least for me, the more evil forces in the game the more fun in is.[/slightly OT]
I agree. The mason only win condtion was crazy hard to accomplish. knocking it down to 50% or more would be more attainable (still hard though).
But Gaderene allows masons to win with the town. Since you win either way, I don’t think the masons should complain too much about the difficulty of the extra win condition.