Ford’s finally getting into the long range EV game. Prices go from ~$44k to $60k. The higher-end versions get 300 miles of range–comparable to Tesla. Prices seem roughly comparable to a Tesla Model 3, but we’ll have to see how the range and performance lines up on a price basis. Ford will have the advantage that they’re still getting the $7500 Federal rebate (Tesla only gets an $1875 credit and will soon get no credit). Price-wise, that’s a point in Ford’s favor.
It’s a little weird calling a 4-door crossover a “Mustang”, but I’m not really tied to the name. There are some other questions, like how seamless their high-speed network will be, but we should find out in several days.
They’re definitely taking cues from Tesla with their giant interior tablet-like screen. Hopefully they’ve paired it with decent software–I don’t think that’s Ford’s strong point, but maybe they’ve pulled out all the stops here.
Anyone else interested in the car? From my perspective, this is the first really compelling competitor to the Tesla Model 3. Crossovers aren’t quite my cup of tea, but it looks like a solid car and the other specs look pretty decent. I’d definitely be interested if I were in the market.
Interesting. I know they were calling this “mustang-inspired”, but looks like they have gone all-in on the Mustang branding.
It’s going to be pricey - especially the longer range/high performance versions. But then those versions of the Tesla model 3 are a lot more too. I"m not sure I need 300 mile of range, and I know I don’t NEED a 0 -60 time of under 4 seconds. No, I don’t NEED that. But.
I’ll have to wait and see. Might have to buy a lottery ticket. I do think it would be sort of cool to have one of these in the driveway, next to my 1965 fastback 289 4V. Or I wonder if Ford Canada would do a straight trade (just for the publicity)
One oddity: the site says 47 miles of range in 10 minutes with a 150 kW charger.
150 kW is great. But 47 miles in 10 minutes sounds way too low. That would imply 1.88 mi/kWh efficiency, which is both terrible (a Model 3 is ~4 mi/kWh) and incompatible with their range figures (no way that Ford put a 160 kWh battery in there).
So it must not be sustaining that 150 kW, but that also doesn’t make sense for such a short span of charge. The Gen3 Supercharger can maintain the full 250 kW over the first ~20% of range increase, and >150 kW for the first 45%. They shouldn’t have to taper their charge rate that drastically.
It feels like a mistake to me. Either the mileage figure is wrong or they aren’t actually using the full 150 kW.
I’ve been waiting for this one; I’m definitely interested.
Unfortunately, I can’t discuss specs yet, but I’ll say that the battery isn’t 160kWh (it’s smaller).
I’ve been privy to the name for about a month now, and the previous name about a year. I expected backlash with the Mustang moniker. I hope we don’t have another Mustang II.
I am really interested in this, and I really could use the 300 mi range. I just have to convince SWMBO that it’s HER next vehicle. As far as the name goes, a horse inspired moniker (Not Pinto obviously)would still maintain the relationship, and I’ve gotten accustomed to a 4 dr Charger so why not?
That’s the biggest thing I don’t like about Teslas.
Totally agree. Mustang has been a pony car for almost 50 years. (When you drop some of those late '70s versions. :() To call this a 'stang is bastardizing that heritage. Pony cars were quick off the line as compared to sedans but all EVs are relatively quick off the line. Is there anything special about the performance of this vehicle over any other EV that warrants the name of that horse?
I’m excited to see another EV coming along, but my first thought was… man, a lot of EVs have an unpleasant nose. This Mustang reminds me of the Model 3’s nose, which is pretty unfortunate. The only two pure EV front ends I rather like are the Model S and the Polestar 2.
One other possibility: the 47 mi/10 min represents an average rate over the entire charge cycle. In other words, a 300 mi charge would take just over an hour. That’s not bad; Teslas also taper off strongly at around the 80% mark.
So it may well be that the peak charge rate is more reasonable; say, 80 mi/10 min, but they aren’t advertising that figure for some reason (well, maybe we’ll find out more when the actual website is open). Peak rates can be a little misleading but in some ways they more accurately represent common usage. You don’t, in general, charge EVs to 100% except overnight.
Well, the specs on the GT version are not finalized yet, but look to be a 0-60 mph time of “mid 3 seconds” I’m not sure how many other “buy them at the dealer” mustangs have this kind of 0-60 times. (google)
Looks like only 3 mustangs have sub 4 second times:
2007 Ford Mustang FR500GT
2003 Vortech Supercharged Mach 1 Mustang
2018 Ford Mustang GT w/ Performance Pack
So if the Mach-E GT version beats all of these, is it “performance” enough?
Zero-to-sixty mph in three or even four seconds here in the forest would crash me into trees, fences, or deer. Imprudent. For safety, zero-to-zero will be imposed when PG&E cuts power before the battery recharges.
