Okay, now I know you’re doing it on purpose. 
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9872525&postcount=2946
here it is! I knew I had seen something where he/she said they weren’t a Clinton supporter.
I think she long felt that her nomination was inevitable. When Obama showed himself to be a formidable opponent, and she had no post-Super Tuesday plan, it upset that applecart. But I think she now pictures it as a “lucky punch” – the champ that loses the bout by a one-in-a-milion chance blow.
“If we had to do this over ten more times, I’d win every time,” she thinks to herself. “Therefore, I’d be the better candidate in the general election.”
So in other words she wasn’t prepared for any real challenge, and when she ran into someone that was a challenge, she had no backup plan whatsoever.
Thats not a lucky punch…that was her being unprepared. A bad trait for a president.
Two words: “Mission Accomplished”.
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I’m not sure what you’re saying, here.
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Oh. Well, its pretty obvious we really screwed the pooch by electing W in the first place. If anything Hillary has shown that she can’t even prepare a campaign properly.
Anyone hear that last night Obama and Hillary slipped away all cloak and dagger like to have a secret meeting…
Wonder what was said???
I think she had one question for him. My Guess, “*You ran a good compaign and beat me fair and square, are you considering me or not? I need to know before I give my speech this weekend. *”
My WAG - he answered her honestly. No idea what he said.
Yeah, I read that before I went to bed last night. I believe both Hillary and Barack believe she has more leverage than she actually does, so color me a little nervous that he may give her more than he should.
I don’t think Obama believes she has more leverage than she does. I’d give him more credit than that, he isn’t stupid, and he’s probably got a team of advisors on it anyway.
Still, I’m begging him to not give her the VP spot.
Washington insiders have tea and cookies with each other all time after hard fought fights. Doesn’t mean he’s going to give her the spot, anymore than it means Clinton want’s it. Something tells me she doesn’t. She wants to be number 1…
I wasn’t able to do the quote-within-a-quote, but what is so objectionable about what DrDeth wrote? (I get that he posted the same message on another thread. I was willing to give it a pass because it’s an important message.)
But beyond that, he didn’t say anything offensive about Obama, merely that a great many voters supported Clinton and those voters will not be enticed to vote Obama by Obama supporters insulting them and their candidate. It seems like simple common sense to me.
You bet the Hillary machine is pissed off! Some VERY BIG plum jobs were at stake-and the Marc Rich’s of the world DEARLY wanted the Hillary/Bill team back in the WhiteHouse. Think about it: huge trade concessions (including the final dismantling of the US Auto industry)-for sale to the highest (Chinese) bidder, courtesy of Bill Clinton! Under Bill EVERYTHING is for sale! :eek:
Thos “megadonors” (those who gave huge amounts to the campaign-are out of pocket BIG TIME!
Think about it-you are NISSAN-and you want a key concession (exemption from federal emissions laws-and Bill was the answer! So you “donated” $2 million to Hillary-now you have NO return! :smack:
DrDeth is correct that Obama has won only if Clinton decides not to pursue the nomination at the convention. No delegates have voted, and the votes of the pledged delegates are the only votes now known with any degree of confidence. The way the pledged delegates stand, Clinton could win the nomination on the first ballot at the convention, if enough supers vote her way.
What’s so cloak and dagger? Obama had said “We should talk.” Hillary had said “Yes we should.” And now they have. Good.
He is, for good reason, showing her respect and coming to her, when she was ready, as he said he would.
The nature of the conversation? I am sure polite. A bit of small talk over the nature and rigors of the process. These two are smart enough that much won’t need to be said and what isn’t said will be just as important. The message from Clinton by now a notch down from defiant and still not gaining footing on how she proceeds with her life from here but realizing that attempting to pressure him will be counterproductive. The dance may be her trying to be in control and him leaving her neither knowing how she fits into a future Obama led Democratic party but realizing that indeed it will be Obama led.
Obama has made it clear that he is not afraid to talk to any petty dictator if just to show them how little they can dictate.
Does anybody know exactly what time her special event on her special day of her special week is supposed to take place in Washington tomorrow? I’d like to set my DVR.
Oh, yes, he slipped away all right - from the press corps that follows him everywhere. His campaign duly loaded his media entourage onto the press plane to depart Virginia for Illinois, where he’s planning to spend a minivacation this weekend. What they didn’t mention to the reporters until the plane was in the air was that Obama wasn’t aboard. I understand one reporter was able to get out a brief WTF??? message before the BlackBerrys stopped working.
Also I understand that Chuck Todd, in reporting this tremendous affront to the Fourth Estate, couldn’t stop chuckling.
Damn, I hate I missed that!
Have you been following these election threads? If not, I can see why you’re taken aback. DrDeth has been hammering away on the Hillary has the popular vote – Hillary is still in it – the supers must look at the popular vote and turn to Hillary – themes for a long time, long after it became clear that these were all pipe dreams.
Crotalus, the idea that the superdelegates are going to overturn the primary results at the convention is, well – how can I put this? Ah. “Ludicrous” would fit nicely. Unless a career-ending something erupts between now and then, ain’t gonna happen.