That’s not true. Any shred of actual evidence that this occurred would probably resolve all uncertainty on his part. He just wants you to keep digging until you find that shred of evidence.
On twitter George Conway listed all the women who have accused Trump of sexual assault. It was around 15 names. And he added some who were not named such as the beauty pageant women where Trump went into their dressing room for no good reason . And some of them were not yet 18 in the Miss Teen USA contest. I don’t think he ever denied going into the dressing rooms , he owned the contests at that time.
Is this what we’re left with as a country? Power hungry dirty old white men we pick as our leaders? They all suck.
He bragged about that on Howard Stern years ago.
It’s probably BS like Amber Heard and Johnny Depp, she was the abuser the whole time. But this metoo culture means that he is done. Although Alyssa Milano doesn’t believe this woman, how convenient. What a freaking joke.
We’ve done this dance since the Kavanaugh hearings. I respect and admire that you take this matter seriously and it clear is one of great importance to you.
But, respectfully, at some point you are going to have to answer the question of: What do you do when there is no evidence and it is just a “he said-she said”? Your go-to line is investigate. They investigated in Kavanaugh, but your position is that even though it was conducted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, it was not thorough enough. Fine. We are past that.
Now we have an investigation done by liberal journalists who you believe have done a pretty thorough job, but you still won’t take a position. You want to keep investigating and investigating and investigating. To find what? This was 1993. There IS NO EVIDENCE TO UNCOVER. No police department would ever investigate this case, not because they hate women, but because it is unsolvable. There were women assaulted last week that they need to focus on. But nonetheless, you have had your investigation, and of course, nothing was found. Now what?
So, can I hope against hope that you will finally answer the overarching question of what do we do when it is a he-said, she-said? And how do we not make it a purely political judgment as in Kavanaugh is a Republican so he’s clearly guilty, but poor Uncle Joe is getting railroaded?
I’m not a conservative, but I totally agree with what you have said. Metoo was a mistake that is going to come bite liberals in the ass. It’s already starting. My problem is that I think Trump is a horrible president, but this will muddy the water and make it harder to remove him. Thanks a lot SJW’s.
:rolleyes: the bolded parts
I’m also not a conservative - I voted for Obama, voted for Hillary, and will vote for Biden (though I’d rather vote for someone else, but Biden is the only choice) - and I basically agree that SJWs have caused problems. The people who advocate the worst overreaches of political correctness, or who dedicate their lives to calling out anything and everything that they see as [whatever]-phobic - I do believe these people are obstacles to liberalism. I view “callout culture” as extremely toxic; I also think that excessive throwing around of the labels “racist” and “sexist” have absolutely contributed to the success of Donald Trump, promoting himself as the antidote to all of that, and his voters are all too happy to cause more “liberal tears” - petty and vindictive on their part, yes, but also liberals need to stop crying so much.
I am by no means alone here. A great many of my friends, from centrist Biden supporters to openly-socialist Bernie supporters, believe the very same.
The SJWs are a small group of malcontents. They don’t speak for most Democrats or most liberals. But because of the internet and the culture we live in, anything they do is amplified on social media and I do believe it causes problems.
No no, I believe that they’re not a conservative.
I don’t know what is way to the right of conservatives though.
If everything has been investigated, and there is still nothing more than “he said, she said”, then I guess I’d have to make a judgment (assuming this is about an election). I’d take things into account like how they responded to the allegation, the existence and character of any other allegations, whether their opponent has been accused and the character/quantity of those accusations, etc.
My position it that it was not thorough enough because it was artificially and unnecessarily restricted in scope and time by the GOP. Those are facts – they really did set limits on time and what they could investigate, and they didn’t interview lots of people who could have had relevant info, and didn’t dig up records that could have shed more light upon the situation. Yes, we’ve been through this over and over again.
Why do I need to take a position in this very moment?
I’m not a conservative and i think there is an element of the overly woke SJW crowd that fucks things up for the rest of us.
I don’t agree that #metoo was bad. It was a good thing insofar as it made it possible to get to these powerful untouchable men like Harvey Weinstein.
I’m not a conservative and i think there is an element of the overly woke SJW crowd that fucks things up for the rest of us.
I don’t agree that #metoo was bad. It was a good thing insofar as it made it possible to get to these powerful untouchable men like Harvey Weinstein. But Kavanaugh is not so powerful that he is untouchable, certainly not by a rich white girl with rich white parents.
The FBI didn’t want that investigation. If the matter were simply referred to them, they would shrug and dismiss it based on what they already knew. They weren’t hamstrung from investigating more than a week, they were forced to investigate for an entire week.
Those are the facts.
Because it seems like we’ve pumped this well dry and you still think there is oil to be struck.
The FBI has investigated candidates for SCOTUS before – that is indeed in their duties, if so directed. But they were directed to conduct a hamstrung and limited investigation – they weren’t directed to get all the facts and talk to everyone. They were specifically prevented from this.
I’ll be ecstatic if this allegation against Biden is proven false. I very much want the Democratic candidate to win, even if it’s Biden. In this particular example, my focus on opposing sexual assault and rape could be in conflict with my political preference – and I still choose to advocate for what’s right in terms of fighting sexual assault and rape. That’s more important to me than any election, including this one.
Imagine you’re a screenwriter: what is the most plausible way this might be proven false. Like you want the audience to believe it’s possible, no deus ex machina stuff.
Evidence of a payoff from some big GOP donor? Someone secretly records her admitting that she made it up? A history of other allegations that were proven false and withdrawn? Off the top of my head.
I bet if I was golfing off the top of your head, I’d hit a 79.
You asked a question and I answered!
This is deus ex machina stuff.
Evidence of a payoff? Nobody with that amount of money is stupid enough to hijack their efforts by leaving a pay trail.
Admitting she made it up? Why would anyone do that who wants to successfully torpedo someone? If you are going to lie, you live the lie. Why would the other person be recording?
The third one is just bootstrapping. A history of other false allegations requires a standard to determine a false allegation in the first instance.
It seems like you are turning the standard on its head. Unless the accused can demonstrate near absolute proof of his innocence, then he is guilty. And such proof is impossible under your standard, barring incredible and uncommon stupidity from the accuser.
But everyone (except those who sexually assault and rape women) wants to do what’s right and wants to fight sexual assaults and rapes. Respectfully, that doesn’t put you on any moral high ground. Shifting the burden to a near impossible standard and putting more innocent men in prison or denying them jobs does not advance that goal one whit. It impedes it. When false allegations are allowed to pass as true, it harms that goal. There has to be a fair system.