Former staffer accuses Joe Biden of sexual assault

It’s possible that this “sexual assault” is a one-off event but typically, predators who commit one assault are likely to have committed others. If we have several more women coming out saying ‘Well actually, this happened to me too,’ then I think that would be impossible to ignore, and we would probably have to consider dumping him then.

There’s clearly a pattern of behavior of making women feel uncomfortable - there’s no disputing this. The newest allegations are a matter of degree. In pretty much all of the cases that were reported last summer, it just seems more along the lines of behaviors that were silently tolerated once upon a time but are widely acknowledged to be inappropriate but not outright penetration of private parts.

I admittedly cringe as I write this because I don’t in any way want to minimize the fact that even making feel women physically and psychologically uncomfortable is a serious matter. Nor do I want to get into hair splitting.

The SCotUS seat stolen from Obama went to Gorsuch. Unless you want to assert that the Oval Office was stolen (for which one might be able to make a case), technically, the Kavanaugh seat was not stolen from a D PotUS.

I can turn the ceiling fan off because all of this hand waiving is circulating the air nicely. It sounds exactly like what the GOP said during the Kavanaugh confirmation.

FTR, I don’t believe her either. The timing is absurd. I do not support meaningless “investigations” which will leave us at the same place where we started. I also do not support them because I don’t want a future where every public figure can have their life derailed because of one single liar, or a handful of them, out of a country of 320 million people.

Yes, it is emotionally difficult to pursue sexual assault allegations. But if you want to do it, you cannot wait 25 to 35 years to do it. You forfeit your chance. The accused has rights as well. Women are no longer delicate flowers. You want to make an allegation, then do it with some deliberate speed.

And if the accused denies it, should the accused be denigrated without strong evidence he is lying?

Only about half the posts sound similar to the stuff said by the GOP during the Kavanaugh hearings.

The rest of it sounds like iiandyiiii trying to make Bernie happen.

I think you can wait as long as you like if you have physical evidence. but you can’t wait over 10 years to bring a claim based on he said/she said and expect that people believe you.

I’m not really concerned about changing the way society treats accused people, since society generally supports and defends powerful men accused of sexual assault. The exceptions are extremely rare.

For the record, I’m approaching this accusation the exact same way I approached the allegations against Franken, Louis CK, Kavanaugh, and Trump (and many others, for that matter). I have a long history of posts which demonstrate this. My response has absolutely nothing to do with my support for Bernie Sanders (who is extremely unlikely to get the nomination at this point).

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I had grave doubts about that also, since memories that old arent reliable.

Mind you, that’s not saying she was lying, as even if her memories are false, they are still what she knows.

You can be 100% truthful, but your story could be 100% false.

All Biden needs to do is say “it’s absolutely false, and right now we are in the midst of a life and death crisis and we don’t have time for this bullshit.” Never apologize, never back down. If he does ANYTHING other than this, he’s a self destructive fool. And anyone trying to hamstring Biden, from the left, on this, might as well be going around yanking out ventilator tubes.

I have resigned to the fact that Biden is our only horse here so stay the fuck out of his way.

I can’t really disagree with any of this.

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So, Tara Reade went to Time’s Up about these allegations in January and was told that they couldn’t take the case on account of it would jeopardize their standing as a nonprofit to bring a case against someone running for president. Coincidentally, I’m sure, the Biden campaign has poured over $800,000 into the coffers of SKD Knickerbocker, the parent organization that runs Time’s Up, in that same exact time frame. Huh, coincidences sure are interesting, aren’t they?

She brought this up last year in support of Lucy Flores and was attacked and doxxed by Biden supporters subsequently. Gosh, no reason to back off from pursuing it, right?

And, for the record, I’m now 61 years old but if, at any time, I’d discovered that Jack Hotchkiss, a man who used to live across the street from us, was running for high office or was being considered for a SCOTUS post you betcha ass I’d be out there disclosing that the fucker molested me when I was seven. Something I didn’t disclose at the time because, well, I was seven and didn’t really know what the fuck all THAT was about aside from the fact that I really didn’t like it and didn’t disclose it later because, well, what point would there be? It happened, it sucked and I went on with my life. But if I saw that shitbird on the tv grinning and gesticulating and asking people to vote for him you can wager your last thin dime that I’d be freaked out enough to get right on it letting people know they were being asked to vote for a pedophile who thought that showing his erect dick to little girls, shoving his hands down their pants and who did that in front of his four year old son–and who likely did the same things to my little sister too, who spent a lot of time at his house since she used to play with his kid. Because sometimes shit gets buried in your head and you get on with your life and it takes something out of the ordinary, like seeing your rapist on tv every fucking day and thinking about what it would be like if that rapist was the fucking president, to get the shambling zombie memory to come blasting out of the dirt and into the light of day.

And those of you who doubt her and how all this works are no doubt fucking lucky because it’s never happened to you. Isn’t that NICE for you, but don’t think for one fucking moment that you’re qualified to speak on the subject.

Oh, and my first husband’s father was a Russian immigrant and I thought he was a pretty good guy, still do. Loved Babushka’s kulich and piroshki, thought the whole family were nice people. I like my across the street neighbors too, also Russians who don’t speak a word of English beyond “hi” and “thank you.” Since I have such favorable views of these Russian people it obviously must be concluded that I’ve never been molested or sexually assaulted because having warm feelings toward Russia and/or Russians simply cancels out any and all sexual traumas, is that how it works? Shame on the lot of you.

You think he should say she’s “full of shit”?

That’s a given. The Shitbag is already in rat fuck mode

The ‘story’ has been out for three days and no one from a respectable news outlet has mentioned it. As if there aren’t 1000s of reporters on Twitter desperate for a different story than Corona. Even red rose Twitter has kinda backed off, just their usual trolling with creepy GIFs and memes.

Yeah I think he should. And I criticized Biden harshly for saying that to the auto worker because it’s fucking stupid to go into a factory and start talking down to the employees and blabbering about gun control, which I think Biden should shut up about in the first place but since his positions are well known, he can at least NOT double down on them moving forward. It was a boneheaded move and potentially alienated a lot of voters.

You really think it’s comparable to a personal allegation by an individual of a completely unprovable sexual assault? How many people do you think are going to say, “you know, Biden wasn’t nice to that woman who accused him of rape…think I’ll vote for Trump instead”?

Anyone who did NOT anticipate the inevitable deployment of false sexual-assault ratfuck allegations against the Democratic nominee - WHOEVER it was - a long time ago, is hopelessly naive anyway. The best position moving forward is to deny and pivot.

Deliberate MSM and establishment suppression to protect a rapist, says the progressives and radicals.

This presumes this isn’t the first domino in an utter shitstorm (i.e. if Biden has a real history of sexual assault). Maybe it isn’t, but if it is, the party needs to find out ASAP and take action to make sure we don’t have a serial assaulter candidate. And that’s speaking purely from a mercenary-political perspective. From a moral perspective, this any every other allegation must be taken seriously and thoroughly investigated.

Sure, it’s understandable that when you first see someone on the National stage your memory might be jogged or you might decide to do something.

Except Joe Biden has been on the national stage since 2008, and she was working with him in the SENATE in 1993, when the alleged incident happened. Then she got out of American politics are she decided she loved Putin. The US Senate aint exactly dogcatcher.