Thx for the nostalgia. Everything old really is new again.
See also:
Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss
Fox hasn’t had a change of heart. They’ve just decided that Donald Trump is no longer a useful tool in advancing the right wing agenda.
Ehh, Sirius is a pretty righty station. Or am I missing your point?
The problem is is that if/when Fox dumps Trump someone needs to be the new cult leader that they can put on their gold throne. Right now its looking like the new Jim Jones is going to be DeSantis, who frankly appears to be the second coming of Hitler.
The only reason I can think of to call Sirius “right wing” is because they hired Joe Rogan - a non-PC liberal who brings in a shit-load of money - to do his show on their platform. If hiring a liberal is your definition of “right wing” then I don’t know what to tell you other than that breaking the orthodoxy doesn’t put you on the other side.
Their news lineup spans the continuum and their comedy includes the Netflix channel.
But, for the sake of argument, let’s assume that it was Fox Radio. Tucker Carlson was a guy on CNN and Shepard Smith was on Fox. The general thrust of a place, be as it may, that doesn’t necessarily say anything about the individual.
I don’t know Abrams but he started “geek girl website”, works as a legal consultant for NBC News, and there’s no “Controversies” section on his Wikipedia page.
I don’t see any strong reason to think that he’s anything other than normal, from anything I see.
By this logic, Fox would have been all aboard the Obama train in 2008.
It used to be, before the 2020 election, my daffy MAGA landlord would watch Fox News every day, starting with The Five and rolling right through Tucker Carlson four hours later.
He hasn’t watched it in a long time. Not conservative enough for him. (But now he refers to Alex Jones by his first name, and calls him “the tip of the spear against the New World Order.” I’d ask him if he means Hogan, Hall, and Nash, but I don’t think he’d get the joke.)
I saw a quote from a Fox exec in 2020 responding to a question about how the network would handle a Trump loss. Paraphrasing, it was “we’re quite comfortable being the voice of the opposition party.”
I think that’s true. Fox sells grievance, not success.
I’m a little interested in this recent rightward drift at CNN.
I posted this elsewhere - Congressman Mo Brooks getting into it with a Fox News host who wasn’t buying his “stolen election” bluster.
Fox News producers/editors likely realize that Trump’s Crisis Clinic is going down in flames and heading over the falls, and prefer that the G.O.P. not share his fate, at least in 2022. If Trump’s flailing Senate and House candidates somehow turn it around by November, expect Fox News to scurry back under Trump’s skirts.
“The courts are not the final arbiter of who wins federal election contests.”
Um. Then who the hell is, Mo?
Sure, somebody has to be the front man. And it’s looking like DeSantis is in front of the pack.
The right wing existed before Trump and the Maga crowd. And it will still be around after them. Trump’s mistake is thinking he’s indispensable.
The Trumpist Party, obviously is the only entity entitled to decide the election winners.
No, I think the reality is Fox succeeds by selling grievances. They need to keep the mob unhappy and scared. But the leaders of the right wing make sure they get what they want.
They didn’t worry if Trump lost the election in 2020 because they had already ensured they had control of the Supreme Court and could run the country through that.
I don’t know what definition of liberal you are using. A liberal would not have guests from the alt-right on their show and then not debunk them. And it wasn’t the liberals who were going around spreading false information about COVID-19. Nor is it liberals who got caught saying racist shit that even Spotify had to pull. And don’t forget all his transphobic, gender-essentialist bullshit.
He does also have some left-wing kooks on, too. So maybe you could argue he’s some sort of centrist or moderate. But he’s hardly a liberal. It wasn’t conservatives who objected to Spotify signing him, after all.
@BigT @Smapti Rogan is an idiot with an excessive eye to personal freedoms (IMO). Nevertheless, orthodoxical approach to political discussion and a book burning/cast out the heretics methodology is not the boundary of liberalism.
Rogan is a lefty. Most people on the left, if you were to talk to them, you’d discover are idiots who you vociferously disagree with. You just don’t hang out with them and, probably, they’re all mostly more like Rogan and that’s why he’s raking it in. Anti-vaxx was a lefty thing until Covid, far more than it was a righty thing.
Republican intellectuals didn’t think that the close friend of Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, had any connection to the party or its base because half of everything he wanted was anathema to the platform.
There’s a danger to spending too much time in the ivory tower and ignoring who the people are down below, and what they’re talking about.
I think they thrived from 2008-2016. It’s almost better for them to have an Obama or Biden in the White House.
Karl Rove was on Fox Thursday to basically say ‘you can stick a fork in Trump now’
Karl Rove Tears into Trump for Taking Highly Sensitive Documents [SEE THE VIDEO] - The Yeshiva World
That’s a riot!
Speak for yourself.
Excellent point, I think.