That is, unless he’s smart enough to see the differences:
-I posted the link in the context of a joke.
-Fox News didn’t.
-I’m not a major news source.
-Fox News is.
Daniel
No, what they say is:
Don’t try to squirm out of the uncomfortable position of having Communists backing Kerry, but Nazis not backing Bush.
Uhhh, that wasn’t weaseling. I consider the argument that “Communists support Kerry, so there’s something wrong with Kerry” so absurdly stupid that I was parodying it.
Even if I were not, most American Communists aren’t in the same league as most American Nazis.
But that’s irrelevant, because the whole thing is idiotic.
Daniel
Well, strictly speaking to get the answer. The original link did not say how long the fake Kerry quotes had been on Fox New’s web site. Do you know how long they were up there? And just so we are clear, what sort of multiple would you consider large, significant, ore important?
The linked article says:
I would assume that the term “pranksters” indicates an awareness of the situation. Was this intended as a joke thread?
Heavens, no! Not communists. Oh, dear me, no!
I don’t get it. Bush won the GOP nomination, didn’t he? Ergo…
Ergo the American Nazis are truer to their sick principles than the alledged Communist group(s) are to theirs. +1 for honor, -1,000,000 for being Nazis.
Jerry Rubin is now hunger-striking Ralp Nader to quit. I do believe the left is ultra-cohesive behind the Democrat candidate this year.
Communists killed how many millions, yet you will give that twisted ideology a pass? Nice.
Communism wasn’t/isn’t twisted, although I don’t fully agree with it. I’m an anti-totalitarian socialist myself, a la Orwell.
Stalin was an evil bastard. Mao later on became a highly confused bastard. They also took their two nations from nothing to modern, literate, industrialized nations. A lot of the bad stuff was needless and mostly, IMO, due to the atheism of the movements.
But communism had its big successes. Gotta respect that.
Well, no, Stalin did that under the name of communism. Communism itself is a nice sounding pipe dream of equality. Isn’t that a straw man argument, anyway?
So lemme see if I have this straight: Communists kill tens of millions through democide in the 20th century, but they’re not so bad? Furthermore, though the Soviet Union and China, the two biggest murderers of the 20th century (though hardly the only murderous communist regimes!) preached communism at every turn, exported communism whenever possible, taught communism to their kids, et cetera, they weren’t really communists? Lemme guess, they were Republicans, right?
Reality checks are in order for several of you.
Hey, if you’ve got something to say, say it. Don’t hide behind cutesy little word games pretending that you might mean something else. Be an adult about it. Then we can go to the Pit where I’ll give you a public correction.
AFAICT, you’ve made a low-class, pansy-assed, weak-kneed, chicken-shit attempt at calling your fellow Americans (including me) a Nazi.
Again, isn’t that all besides the point? It’s not like Kerry courted the communist party. As far as I can tell he’s pretty much ignoring them.
There are a myriad of nutty groups out there- the Nazis, the Communists, the KKK, etc. Neither major party solicits or welcomes their endorsements. Any endorsements so given are completely irrelevant to the campaign.
Back to FOX. Part of the Murdoch agenda is to spin the news to favor Republicans and try to poison the viewers’ minds against Kerry. Unfortunately for them, the only people who can stomach watching their amateurish news are those that are voting Republican in the first place.
Brutus - what are you trying to say? That John Kerry supports the Communist Party of America?
It’s an absolutely ludicrous argument, and another sign that the Right is struggling to defend their boy. And it’s also a classic instance of misdirection from a real issue, in an effort to minimize the real issue.
If I announce publicly that I support Kerry, does that mean he automatically embraces my agenda and makes it his own? Or does it more seem that I, independent of his agenda, find that mine agrees with his?
I can imagine quite a few of the ‘guns, bunker, ammo and canned food’ contingent like Bush just fine, and I am sure many of those whack jobs with sandwich boards saying ‘Jesus is coming, and boy is he pissed’ like him too. Does that mean Bush automatically takes on their agendas?
Face it - people support who they want. It has nothing to do with the candidate.
Care to make any comments that relate to the original point, trying to understand how Fox calls itself a professional organizaton when it can’t seem to research a story for 15 minutes or take ‘joke’ quotes out of it before press time?
Now if Kerry comes out and talks about how the Communists aren’t such bad guys and maybe we should give them a listen, then I will be joining you in protesting the man and try to get him out of whatever office he holds as quickly as possible, as I agree with you about Communists. But that doesn’t really apply here, does it?
Out of curiosity, since these guys killed millions, why haven’t the FBI et all arrested them? We can’t have Americans running around slaughtering millions.
Or, is it the case that the people who did the slaughtering are not the same people who’re members of the American Communist party and you’re just playing myopic word games?
This sort of reasoning shows you’re in league with (or at least in the same league as) the likes of Evil Captor and his moronic thread **Republicans: torture good, marriage bad**. If you’re not sure what’s wrong with this sort of reasoning take a look at this explanatory thread in response to his trainwreck: **Americans: torture good, marriage bad**
You’re using the same piss-poor, fallacious reasoning. I hope that you don’t actually find your case compelling.
Once you allow for condemnation on these grounds, we all become vulnerable to charges levelled at the group called humans. I mean if you want to find some totally depraved motherfuckers you need look no farther than humans. Every single major atrocity committed in history was committed by members of this group. And you know what, these sick, evil, fuckers are backing both candidates in this election.
Oh, and you can wipe the froth off your mouth from your righteous rage - NO ONE defended Stalin, Mao, or Castro, or justified their murderous rules, at least not in this thread.
So chill out a bit, hey? No need to get all cannoned-up over this one…
Democide? What the hell is democide?
You making up words now?
Just a little Freudian slip on the part of Brutus, who has fantasies about eliminating all Democrats.