I saw one review that slammed the show. There’s definitely some improvement needed but it wasn’t painful to watch or anything that bad. I’ve seen far worse shows heralded as comedy hits yet weren’t.
The NYT review was lukewarm.
The ‘no sitting on the couch in jeans’ - I thought that meant new dark jeans can transfer dye onto pale material on a chair or couch. Not that wearing jeans means you aren’t good enough to sit on the expensive couch.
Yeah - I haven’t seen any reviews warmer than luke. They seemed to say the show didn’t have any clear focus/purpose, and lacked any witty foils to Frasier. They gave some examples of supposed “jokes” where Frasier said lines which seemed like setups for another character to skewer him with a comeback.
I’ve tried to get into Frasier a couple of times, but after a certain number of shows I just had had enough of him and the others. Just my personal taste.
Agreed; I’m not sure why Hollywood decides to remake or revive the shows that worked once because of a combination of good writing and acting. Instead, they could try to remake or revive the terrible shows. Perhaps if they tried again with Two Broke Girls, it might actually be funny this time.
Frasier is in my top 5 favorite sitcoms - depending on what day you ask I may say it’s number one.
The first episode of Frasier2 was so inferior it made me sad. I know it’s only one episode - and the first one, at that - but I can’t see how anyone could view it as anything above mediocre.
Grammer himself was fine, but the entire supporting cast is as interesting as a jar of mayonnaise. Niles’ son is the worst and looks like he’s learning how to act on the job. The “girlfriend” is annoying and unnecessary. The British colleague speaks in punch lines. The writing is uneven and forced.
Very early episodes of many otherwise quality shows can be brutal to watch, so I know there is a chance that the new Frasier will find its footing, but I’m not very hopeful.
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Tell the truth. If you have seen even one episode of Two Broke Girls, would you even consider watching a new version of it?
Well lots of people like to gawk at car crashes, don’t they?
It wasn’t horrible, which I was fearing, but I don’t see myself watching any more. Just don’t see myself loving these characters. Anyway, what about Frasier’s new apartment? Doesn’t seem very Frasier-like, 20 years later. Too modern. I mean I would love it, except for that b/w design on the wall. If you were wondering what it is, check the link. Even knowing what it is now, bad design. Way too prominent, it dominates the room.
I must be bored
Full first episode is on YouTube now:
It got off to a rough start, but I liked it as it went along. That nephew really doesn’t know what he’s doing, and the part seems obviously written for Niles, but they guy lacks even the minimum of chops that David Hyde Pierce has. I had to imagine him doing it to laugh at it.
I am a rather literal person, I thought the wallpaper was a bit too literal. I do like the Harvard office. I do lean dark academia.
I Googled the actor who plays the nephew David and this may be his first on-screen role. He seems to be a fairly recent Julliard graduate with only a theater background. (Who knows; maybe five or ten years from now, he will be a big star?)
Well I watched the first episode on YouTube with some trepidation because of all the bad reviews. But it wasn’t horrible, at least not horrible like the Night Court atrocity.
I don’t understand why producers of comedy decide to kill the mood with characters like Freddy and his unfathomable problems with Frasier and his lot in life. Larry David showed the way with “No hugs, no learnings”… why have this wet blanket of a Freddy and his whatever issues gloom up half the episode. Make us laugh for God’s sake - tell a dirty joke, fall down a flight of stairs, get a pie in the face. Jeez.
Judging from the performance I saw tonight on CHCH, I highly doubt it. I get the impression he’s trying to emulate David’s father, but nobody can do Niles like Niles.
I thought the whole thing (the first two episodes) was lame. Frasier and the other characters are so out of key, I can’t help wondering how Kelsey Grammer got roped into the project. On (or even near) the level of Frasier, it ain’t. At times, I felt like I was watching Friends, which I can’t stand.
I mostly agree.
Frasier was Frasier and he’s funny. His snark never gets old.
Everything else was subpar. Also, the episode reminded me how much I dislike laugh tracks. And this was poorly done laugh tracks.
Poor writing, worse directing. Overall low effort.
If David was trying to do Niles, Olivia went over the top trying to be the new Roz.
The bar was a poor knockoff of Cheers.
Why is that English guy even there? Is he filling in for the late Rene Auberjonois?
I watched the first two episodes last night, and that was the thing that really struck me. So few shows use laugh tracks nowadays it was actually really jarring when the fake audience cheered when Frasier entered the scene the first time.
Add me to the chorus who thought the first two episodes were sub-par, but I am holding out hope that it improves over time.
It is my assumption that they were counting on David Hyde Pierce to join the show. I read just this morning the plan was to have Frasier and Niles running a theater, which would have been a more snarky, witty, sophisticated show…As it is, without Niles, they had to come up with Plan B, with ‘something’ to put on the air.
The plan b would have worked if they tightened continuity and went a bit deeper.
Doing a flip with Frasier being the dad connecting with his son is good. You have to earn it. There isn’t a good reason for Fred to move in with frasier, they shoehorned in a thin reason. They shoehorned in a job at Harvard. These things were not earned and that maybe the downfall.
I’ll give it more of a watch, but so far it could have been so much more.
I’m pretty sure that would end in disaster, just like all their other ventures.