Well, I like this more than the pilot, actually.
I’m hoping this show works well when they are investigating Monsters of the Week.
I’m still liking Denethor in this show. “Have you seen this? It warms your ass.”
I must be getting soft in my old age - I enjoyed two tv shows in a row tonight, this and House. I like the way Abrams’ shows are so very well cast and acted.
I just noticed the opening collage. Definite X-Files homage there with the handprint. Also, both Dunham and Scully spent part of the pilot in their smallclothes. I suppose the T&A keeps some interested.
-Much better this week, IHMO. I loved the case, although the corpse in the lab that the Dr. Bishop was working on was horrid. Looked like I could have bought it in my local Spirit Halloween Emporium.
-Walter enjoying new car technology: Best quote ever.
-Still don’t get even the slightest whiff of any chemistry between Joshua Jackson and Anna Torv. Doesn’t help that when he took off his shirt his chest and arms were as sexy as an eight year old’s.
-“Junior Agent Astrid Farnsworth” is a total leap of faith. She must have gone to the FBI Academy at Forever 21.
-What’s that symbol on the frog? Greek?
-Great action sequence. Love them better apart than together.
-Sweet scene with Walter at the end.
-Any guesses about Peter’s medical condition and the scene at the end?
The science is fairly bunk, but the acting is good, especially with the old crazy scientist (this is why I hate getting into new shows, it takes me a full season just to get people’s names down) . I loved his exchange at the beginning.
“But I’ll need my old lab at Harvard opened back up.”
“Your lab is opened back up…don’t you remember?”
“…No, but that’s fantastic news!”
Or how he was casually eating popcorn while his son was trying to save the woman’s life.
And it seems there’s something with the son that we’ll get into later. Maybe the son was also an experiment? And were the numbers the old scientist have any significance?
OK, so why were they screaming and throwing up after seeing the baby?
It was ugly?
Did you miss the part where they said it was growing before their very eyes? It went from a newborn to dead of old age in thirty minutes…that’s over half a month of growth every second. I’d like to see you keep your composure when seeing a baby grow that fast.
Also, dramatic effect.
It sounded like it was aging about 20 years an hour so I guess seeing something growing that fast would be hideous.
I’m sure the real reason is because it made for a great opening scene and they have to keep you from changing the channel in the first five minutes. 
oops, I responded at the same time…was it 30 minutes? I thought it was a few hours.
I liked it again. I’m glad J.J. Abrams is running a more “Monster of the Week” format than a “Confuse the shit out of people” format like he did with Lost. I think it’s an easier show to pick up in the middle.
The doctor is still my favorite character. I’m trying hard to find the leads interesting but I haven’t gotten it yet. I’m more interested in the story than the characters right now. I’m hoping that will change in the future.
I paused the end scene on my DVR, it looked like
three people in a hospital of some sort, sleeping. They didn’t look like any characters in the show as far as I know.
Is the Walter character channeling Orson Welles or is that how the actor sounds normally?
He makes the show anyway.
He’s normally British or something like that so it’s probably just his American accent. I agree he’s the most interesting character on the show right now.
I missed the last 5 minutes, did I miss anything interesting?
I thought they looked like Accelerated Ageing Serial Killer Guy (I’m crap with names), so presumably were experiments of the same sort?
And I liked that quite well, but there’s one thing that always bugs the hell out of me with any ‘accelerated growth’ kinda things – where does the additional mass come from? It’s an absolutely minor quibble, and normally I’m quite good at wilfully suspending disbelief even if the science strains credibility beyond most people’s breaking point, but the sudden mass gain somehow irks me.
And, the giant floating 3d letters? Yeah, they should really loose them. It adds nothing, and just takes me out of the episode. I keep expecting someone to bump their head on floating metal text, they just seem so massive and part of the scenery.
Don’t remember what happened in the last five and not just before that, so:
[spoiler]Female love interest (FLI) “digs” up living chemical twin guy’s tape, which is buried under the usual snow (seemed pretty fresh for Boston in the morning) and about a teaspon of dirt. Listens to it and identifies the “You better send this dangerous substance with your unsuspecting brother!” voice as that of male love interest (MLI). Hies herself back to the hospital so she can confront love interest about same voice. But it’s too late. MLI has put a pillow over (previously) living chemical twin guy’s face (guy didn’t even turn his head to the side) and has gotten in an SUV. FLI sees this and radios in to have Boston PD chase MLI.
Chase ensues, natch. (That snow we’d seen on Boston grass is apparently nowhere to be found on the roads, which are as clean as if no snow had fallen. Seriously, guys? Also, the roads are fairly wide, which is not so common in Boston.) Chase gets ugly when FLI drive-chases MLI into some construction barrels and such (plastic things with a blue liquid in them, presumably for effect, as sand is a lot easier to move).
SUV flips over randomly during the crash scene, which is weird, as it takes a little more than a plastic barrel full of liquid for an SUV to flip. The video of the stuff in front of the SUV before it flips doesn’t reveal a lot in the way of Things That Might Flip Yo’ Cah.
FLI rushes to the scene only to have MLI fall halfway out of the SUV’s driver’s-side window, which has shattered, in probably the only realistic part of that entire scene (seriously, an SUV handling as well as a sedan?).
MLI tries to tell FLI something important, but because he is dying (as evidences by the blood decorating his nose, mouth and eyelids), he can only get out, “Think about why [black DHS dude] sent you to the warehouses” at the end.
I don’t remember if FLI does anything after that, but there’s a short scene in which generic-white-man-possibly-appearing-in-another-episode brings fake-arm-woman the body, on a gurney or summat, of MLI.
FAW: “How long has he been dead?”
GWMPAIAE: “About five hours.”
FAW: ::pauses:: “Take him in for interrogation.”
I might have the dialogue paraphrased unintentionally, but that’s the gist of it.
Oh, and adorning the wall right outside the room where MLI is being taken for interrogation (“Now that you’ve given us what we want … you thought death was painful? In case reincarnation exists, here are a few reasons to not screw us over next time.”) is one of those leaf things, like they had periodically during the show (a leaf, a butterfly, a … chameleon? an apply and a handprint … twice, I think).[/spoiler]
If you want to watch that for yourself, free of iampunha TWOP-style snark and doubt, go to hulu.com/fringe.
Oh, and FTR, I liked the floaty letters, though I’d like them a little more if they were used as more than just CGI things. Turn them into things. Spell out weird shit. See if anyone notices patterns.
The guy who plays Walter is Australian, isn’t he? He was Denethor in “Return of the King”.
That’s the summary for the Pilot episode; I think he was asking for the latest one (someone correct me if I’m wrong).
Anyway (I’m not bothering with spoiler boxes since the date of the episode is clearly in the thread title) there were a couple of scenes at the end.
Olivia meets with Broyles. He tells her that the other scientist (forgot his name) has escaped and is still at large somewhere. He then asks what Nina said to her when she was at Massive Dynamic. Olivia admits that she talked to her about the Pattern and offered her a job. Broyles asks what her response was and Olivia says that she told her that Broyles would be giving her a big raise.
Back at the lab, Peter is complaining that he won’t sign some paperwork because he has to sign away too many of his rights. Walter says he signed his and Peter points out that he doesn’t have any rights anyway since he is supposed to be in a mental institution. Peter walks off in a huff.
Walter then tells Olivia that since she has seen his and Peter’s files that he hopes she will be discreet and not say anything about Peter’s medical condition. Olivia looks puzzled and says there was no mention of a “condition” in the files. Walter tells her “never mind then”.
Later, Walter and Peter are at home. Walter is in bed, trying to sleep and repeating seemingly random numbers. Peter (sleeping on the couch) asks him to stop but Walter keeps repeating the numbers. Peter then starts singing “Row, Row, Row Your Boat” and tells Walter to go to sleep.
There is then a very quick scene where we see three bodies lying in some sort of cylinders (like “suspended animation tubes” or something).
Episode ends.
I’m going to have to watch this for a couple more weeks because I have mixed feelings about it. My initial response was to think that they were going for the big gross out/shock factor rather than writing a well-constructed script.
“Well, we can’t wow the audience with talent, let’s just show some icky brain!”
But then when I got into it more, there were definitely some things I liked. I loved the old guy’s character (Peter). Thought that was cute and could be good when developed further.
The other thing that bothered me, and it may have been MY mood more than anything, but it required a higher level of suspension of disbelief than I felt like putting forward at the time. I think it’s because it’s stuck between sci fi and…well…whatever else it’s supposed to be. Crime drama? Murder mystery? If it’s going to be a sci fi show, then go for it. If not, don’t drag in stuff about pulling images off of optic nerves.
Walter is the old mad scientist; Peter is his son.
Well, the show is about “fringe science” so I put it squarely in the science fiction arena. Unfortunately, I think J.J. Abrams is a lot more gullible about what is “real” science and what isn’t than I am; I suspect he thinks a lot of the things in the show are more plausible than they really are.
Us, too. We are turning into regulars on Fringe. I think it’s pretty good. I’m burned out on 24. I hope this will maintain its energy level.
Yeah, she was asking for the last episode not the pilot. Thanks. Thanks for the attempt, iampunha.