Fauxlivia is getting a conscience. I hope and pray there will not be a love triangle between Peter, Oliva, and Fuaxlivia when Oliva gets back to our universe.
That will be horribly cliche and stupid.
Also, I wonder if the Observers are first people mentioned in the book.
This episode didn’t really grab me. I guess it’s because it was mostly a setup episode for the big scavenger hunt for doomsday machine pieces. But I did greatly enjoy Walter’s admonishment, “If you end up breaking the universe, this time it’s on YOUR head!”
Like your idea about the Observers being the first people.
I am confused about the cliche you speak of. Could you list some other examples of this cliche?
Really? You’re giving me grief because I didn’t put the accent mark over the last e?
heh, no. My bad for not being clear; pathetic pedantry is an absolutely fair assumption on this board. My question is a sincere one.
I just mean love triangles are in a lot of TV shows, movies, books, etc…
In my opinion they’re overused.
There were two Crichtons at one point on Farscape and it created quite a conflict for Aeryn Sun, who loved both of them.
Not quite the same, but similar.
You could be right, or the Observers could be the reason that the First People were destroyed, they may be the antagonists of the FP. The Observers may have stopped whatever universe splitting things the First People had in mind. The Observers might have actually scattered and hidden the parts of the machine.
Or the First People idea might be a Red Herring placed there by Walternate, which I tend to believe. If only because the FP present a back story that the series might not wish to maintain.
So, am I understanding this right? The whole using a carrier wave of the number broadcasts to give people amnesia was an elaborate ruse to get the Fringe crew to find all the machine pieces and put them together? Wouldn’t there be a simpler way to go about that?
And they were being broadcast before Walternate was even born, and before either side knew the other existed. Something doesn’t add up. Either the source of the numbers is a third party, and the other side found out about it, cracked the code, and then decided to use the amnesia ray to get our Fringe’s attention, or…I don’t know.
I don’t get this episode at all. I thought we were working under the assumption that the machine Walternate wanted Peter to destroy stuff with was his creation. If so, how the hell did the pieces end up on our side, and how can they be so old? I guess we’re now to assume Walternate didn’t invent anything, but merely discovered it? But if that’s the case, why does it react to Peter as if it was designed to use him to power it??
My head aches…
And nobody, I don’t know what you mean by saying that Fauxlivia is developing a conscience.
Oh, I already figured that Walternate didn’t create the machine. After all, our Walter also had drawings of the machine as well. If Walternate created it, he wouldn’t need Peter to work on it. Remember, when Peter was on the other side Walternate told him that he hadn’t figured everything out yet because some fields of science and physics are more advanced on our side.
But as for why it reacts to Peter, good question. The Observers probably have the answers, but it’ll be a while before we do.
I think the observers have more than answers; I think they built the machine to begin with, designing it specifically for Peter to use.
I find usually when a character (or in this case, characters) is/are dropped for a while, it’s so you’ll forget about them, so when something disastrous is about to happen then he/she/they come in and save the day, kind of like an ex deus machina; “Forgot about me, didn’t you.”
So seeing how the Watchers haven’t been mentioned for a while, they’ll probably come back when something big happens. Or they’ll cause something big to happen.
As a side note, in case you haven’t heard about them before, numbers broadcasting shortwave radio stations are a real phenomenon.
That’s interesting. Take a little truth and dress it up with sci-fi and viola.
I thought that was ringing a faint bell in my memory.
elfkin, Fauxlivia was talking to Peter about how if it was one universe against the other, you’d have to defend your universe, wouldn’t you? in a way that made it sound like she was just doing what she felt she had to do, and she wasn’t actually a bad person.
Oh, sorry I missed this.
When Fauxlivia was talking to the shape-shifter she said that he should stop wiping people’s minds so there wouldn’t be more deaths of innocent people. Besides saying the people were innocent, she appeared to feel bad about them. And when the shape-shifter made it clear that he would continue wiping people’s minds, she shot him.
Then at the site where they were digging the artifact, she seemed to have doubts about her mission and told Peter that maybe Walter was right, and that he (Peter) should re-think trying to construct the machine.
…or sloppy writing.
Well, the original machine part that was found in Malden was in a shallow hole in someone’s basement. Kind of hard to believe that it was buried for millions of years, was * not * found when they were building the house, but was accessible by digging a short way. And if it was there for millions of years, believing that it still worked would be a stretch. (I can’t remember if we got a good look at the device to determine whether it used familiar technology or not.)
Also … Astrid knows about the coordinate in Malden. Fauxlivia knows Astrid knows, but doesn’t want Peter and Walter to know. This is probably bad news for Astrid.