frog abatement?

Nearly two years ago we moved into a new house. It had 3 water features; I decommissioned one, but the fountain/sculpture and the waterfall remain. The house hadn’t been lived in for a while and the water features were filled with mud/compost, and we cleaned them out.

We (actually, the cat) found a small frog in a big indoor plant. We guess it got in with the dirt, since it’s a vine we planted from scratch. I think it was a Cope’s Gray Tree Frog. We found the frog in February (after what was probably a harrowing two months living in the potted plant, evading our cat). At my wife’s request, I moved it outside.

In April, the singing begain. It was surprisingly loud. At first, just one frog, but by August (when the singing quit), there were three. Now we probably have nearly a dozen, and the din is impressive.

Any good ideas on frog control? There’s an outdoor cat we’ve sort of adopted who drinks from these features, so we don’t want to poison the water. I now periodically empty and refill to avoid new hatches growing up, but I’m sure many of the frogs wandered in thanks to the calls. (At one point we had two or three different species, probably a common gray tree frog which has a different call, but now we’re back to just one species, if the calls are any guide.)

I’m tempted to simply empty them both and keep them empty (no small feat, especially with the rains this spring) and wait a couple years until they go away. However, I suspect that they’d come back pretty quickly.

I found some advice on the web, but most not helpful. It’s a garden, not a lawn, and while the sound bothers my wife more than me, she wouldn’t go for razing the vegetation. A perimiter fence isn’t practical. I will try snake repellant, but thought you clever folks might have a better solution.

Thanks!

Coexistence won’t work, huh?

That’s the nice green solution, but man these lil suckers are loud. I’ve been meaning to replace my SPL meter; it would be nice to measure it. My guess is 70-80 dB SPL(A), although I could be overestimating since it’s otherwise so quiet at night.

OK, less than that, but all in a narrow frequency band, so it’s very noticeable/disturbing. :frowning:

I envy you. Nothing I miss more than the frogs croaking. My neighbors complained about my pond so I reluctantly removed it. I just put another one back in and stocked it with frog eggs SHHHH!

Transplant a couple of garter snakes to your pond.

I envy you too.

What eats tree frogs?

Storks are the classic response. But maybe somebody nearby has ostriches or similar?

Lots of good things (bug/mosquito control) worth the sounds, imho, and anecdotaly speaking people do not only get used to it but come to like it.

We go out of our way to support the frog/toad population on our land. Winter is quiet and desolate in comparison to now. Maybe relocate frog habitat to a far end of your land.

I lived for three years (2000-2003) in this domicile. When I moved in, it was infested with little itty bitty green tree frogs.

NO FUCKING SHIT those buggers are loud! I can’t fathom how such a small critter can croak so load, without violating the laws of conservation of energy.

I always just scooped them up, whenever I caught one, and put them outside some ways away. I wonder if they would survive simply being put outdoors in some random spot. Sometimes I put them in a tree, for what that might be worth.

After a few months, I didn’t have any more infestation, and they never came back either.

On the other hand, catching the field mice was an on-going project. I had several traps set out at all times for the entire three years I lived there, and I checked and changed them regularly.

ETA: Of all the placed I’ve lived, I liked that place the best. I wish I were still living there.

Damn. I just went outside, and they’re chirping away. It’s LOUD! So loud it makes my ears crinkle, which I believe happens around 90 dB SPL, maybe higher. It’s fierce. I couldn’t bear to sit out there.

This is NC. There are snakes everywhere. No idea why they’re giving all these loud frogs a pass.